Those are videos from PChttps://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/haf32f/when_they_tell_you_aim_assist_isnt_that_strong_on/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=sharehttps://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/evvxb9/this_is_how_aim_assist_looks_on_pc_not_the_same/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=shareI don't know if aim assist is the same on console but on PC aim assist will lock on target and then follow it, aim assist not only slows down your aim, tracks the enemy softly too, that feature is helping a LOT to controller players that instead of predicting movement like M/K with average response time of 130-200ms, the aim assist will track for you with 0ms of response time, that's the primary advantage of aim assist over m/k, that's why there's a lot of Controller players on top 500 Preds, and that's why PC Pro Players complain hardly about Aim assist.With crossplay enable, it needs to be removed at least on Rankeds and tournaments.

@audiofilomx There's a psychological aspect to this. I would assume this comes straight from EA.If you implement low-medium powered aimbot, children and people who don't game with keyboard/mouse will feel like they're really good at the game.Getting people, mainly kids, addicted to your game by giving them easy access endorphins with aimbot, is the same strategy FortNite used.Apex was built solely as a cashgrab by EA to try to get some of that FortNite money, so its not surprising they copied built-in aimbots.Now if the developers are smart, they'll see they have a great game on their hands, with lots of potential that's ruined by aim assist. If they're really smart, they'll foster a fair ecosystem for player enjoyment/retention.But this 'is' EA. They tend to force studios to do horrible greedy things to try to force more money out of their games. Then fire the studios that can't deliver on EA's signature low effort cashgrab concepts.

@NewfeelinQc How you will know if someone is on a controller? The only way to know is when you are already been beamed by one.The pros and * argument is very used and bad, aim assist works at midrange too, 90% of the fights on Apex are Close-mid range Combats.AIming is the primary advantage on ANY FPS, movement and game sense are secondary, just see cheaters(really bad players) destroys pro teams only because they can land every shot, obviously aim assist is not an aimbot but for sure is way too strong (just see my video, tracks people by itself)Controller the way is tuned up right now in games like Fornite, Apex, Halo and CoD outperform M/K in the most essential thing of ANY FPs "aiming", Snipedown got the kills record on tournaments against the best players in the world, he's good player, he knows the game, but most important he knows how to use Aim assist, at that level of skill, any advantage will be huge, that's why I'm only asking for removing on Ranks and Tourneys.(And in case that you're saying that only 1% of controller players reach that level you're wrong, every tournament there's more and more full controller players teams, the amount of controller Preds on PC is huge, if M/K is so superior why controller is absorbing all the top 500 on PC?)

@4ccbf460f7b926b1 i always thought like you, EA is very greedy, they need a Noob friendly game, because everyone, even bad players will enjoy the game and will spend money on it, that's a good business for sure, that's why i only want aim assist removed from rankeds and tourneys. I have hope haha

@4ccbf460f7b926b1 Yeah cause everybody knows that the aim assist idea came from fortnite eh? Aimbot only kicks in at close range. If you're that afraid of controller players, avoid close range combat. If you push be smart about it. A controller player is so easy to melt cause they dont have the movements of a mouse and keyboard player. Both have pros and * but i agree on one point, aim assist is too strong, but if you remove it completely, a controller player doesnt stand a chance against a m/k player.

@NewfeelinQc I get your point, FortNite didn't invent aim assist. But FortNite was the gold rush for this genre, and everyone tried to get in on the FortNite money.Now that they're adding cross play, they're at a crossroads. There's so much cheating, recoil scripts, aim assist abuse, console mouse and keyboard aim assist...My guess is that they fix nothing. But I hope I'm wrong.

REMOVE aim assist now that crossplay is a thing

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Lordstuart12
5 years ago
@audiofilomx why not just use a controller then? I hate mouse and keyboard. Yes games give aim assit to controllers but look at the pc players and what they can do. Can you set a macro on a controller? Can you straff left and right qhile looting? You loot ten times fast than we do on console, shall I go on? You pc players have so many more advantages than us on console and all you're moaning about is the only slight advantage we have. I stopped playing call of duty and fortnite because of the cross play, it literally ruined the game because I couldnt kill pc players and its going to be the exact same here.
DaleWWilson95
5 years ago
@audiofilomx I understand dude but its F2P not everyone is good/ has the time aim assist makes it more inclusive for everyone not just a selective few
audiofilomx
5 years ago
@Lordstuart12 I don't like to use my controller anymore because I don't want to abuse it, i never used peacekeeper, devotion, because of that, it feels wrong and disgusting, is just not fair, and i don't like to play like that.
But I get your point, that's why i consider aim assist needs to only be removed on ranked games and tournaments, if someone just want to enjoy the game, sure leave aim assist as it is on casual games, but any assist on competitive games should not be allowed, competitive is supposed to be raw skill, introduce aim assist to those scenarios will destroy competition integrity.
For the record, controllers have cronusmax to use macros, but any Macros that helps you in the game is cheating too for both sides.
audiofilomx
5 years ago
@DaleWWilson95 Sure, not everyone have that time, again, that's why it only needs to be removed or tuned down on ranked and tourneys, those modes are for people that can invest a lot of time in the game
Lordstuart12
5 years ago
Okay but what you're saying is that the aim assist should be removed from tournaments and ranked? Ita all skill based and such no extra help should be allowed? Then how about this. Force every one to use a mouse and keyboard? That way there isnt any aim assist. In my eyes its childish to ask such a thing. If you take away aim assist in controllers then people using consoles wouldnt stand a chance, its bad enough that they are letting people on switch cross play when they release it, people on switch are going to get destroyed by every one. In sorry if I'm sounding rude in any way but i truly think this thread is pointless.
Sylvester9991
5 years ago
What does being Greedy has to do with aim assist. Plus, it would mean that Console would have to lose aim assist too which is an unfair advantage for us because we can’t aim to save our lives on there
NewfeelinQc
5 years ago
@audiofilomx I play on console and its rare i see people beaming mid range, because recoil is harder to control on console, its super easy in cod but in apex its hard. If you get beam mid range its cause youre an easy target or 2 not using movement or cover well enough. The only time i get beam like that its against a full stack of preds, never happens against diamond or lower skilled player. I guess we can say the same for mouse and keyboard player beaming at mid range, only the most skilled player can do it. But once again at close range they should slightly decrease it cause its too strong but my close friends cant even beam at close range so not everyone can do it.
For tournaments they should put controller against controller and m/k against m/k because money is on the line but in ranks there is no point, it will only affect matchmaking in a bad way.
audiofilomx
5 years ago
@NewfeelinQc I can't talk about console really, i don't know if aim assist is different there, some people is saying that Pc aim assist is way stronger, i can't confirm that, but for sure there're people who can beame you while running and jumping with controller, at least i use to play on pred lobbies, and i found averageaden and calamitii 2 of 5 matches, that's my experience, and i don't know... i consider aim assist turned off on ranked pretty fair, at least on diamond and pred ranks.
heme725
5 years ago
@audiofilomx Yes aim assist is much stronger on PC than it is on console. It's likely that way to allow for players to feel more comfortable and have fun as well as compete with the movement skills and precision that M/K have.
Since they're bringing crossplay to Apex ripping out Aim assist is no longer an option. Controllers can't effectively track targets like a M/K so you'd be eliminating whole systems from that game mode. That's not to say that it can't be done, heck any of us can play this game with our feet if we wanted to but we'd be at a massive disadvantage by trying.
4ccbf460f7b926b
5 years ago
@heme725 There's post after post of PC players calling for aim assist removal.
People just want a fair fight.

The problem is aim assist gives inhuman tracking that exceeds human response times. You can't juke or dodge unless the controller player is extremely bad.

I understand there's a difference in input, and keyboard mouse has its advantages, but aiming is 'the' advantage to end all advantages. If you land shots, you win, regardless of movement potential/looting speed, etc.
Which is why I don't support mixing inputs.

If someone wants to play with a controller, isolate them to controller only cross play. If someone wants to use controller with keyboard/mouse friends, disable aim assist.
If someone wants a pure and fair keyboard mouse fight, isolate keyboard mouse users to the same cross play section.

If I remember correctly, didn't FortNite even have a cross play input toggle? So that you could stay isolated to controller or keyboard only players?

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