@RichAC wrote:
But thats my whole point, even the pro players don't believe it should be about going for the win. So there is nothing separating them from the amateur or streamer playstyle besides good aim and tactics. Strategy is meaningless. And society won't respect a game thats not about winning. I don't blame that on the BR game mode. I blame that on players not wanting to change and play it like its a BR. It feels like overwatch players wanting to play this like its a FFA. My reply to them is don't play a BR game then because that feels fake to me.
This is the core of my point as well. These "tournaments" we had for Apex Legends on twitch were complete abominations. Contest on who stomps the most noobs the fastest, even with purposefully leaving people alive so that they could farm more kills after they respawn their teammates. I struggle to understand how anyone finds watching this enjoyable. But it's clear that it's exactly the kind of thing that current state of BR community leads to. It's also not like these tournaments are the first of their kinds, I saw similar events for CoD Blackout before.
Where my position differs is that I believe devs could have done a way better job at what the goal of the game is meant to be so that people wouldn't play with such incompatible playstyles.
@2deski wrote:
@RichAC wrote:But thats my whole point, even the pro players don't believe it should be about going for the win. So there is nothing separating them from the amateur or streamer playstyle besides good aim and tactics. Strategy is meaningless. And society won't respect a game thats not about winning. I don't blame that on the BR game mode. I blame that on players not wanting to change and play it like its a BR. It feels like overwatch players wanting to play this like its a FFA. My reply to them is don't play a BR game then because that feels fake to me.
This is the core of my point as well. These "tournaments" we had for Apex Legends on twitch were complete abominations. Contest on who stomps the most noobs the fastest, even with purposefully leaving people alive so that they could farm more kills after they respawn their teammates. I struggle to understand how anyone finds watching this enjoyable. But it's clear that it's exactly the kind of thing that current state of BR community leads to. It's also not like these tournaments are the first of their kinds, I saw similar events for CoD Blackout before.
Where my position differs is that I believe devs could have done a way better job at what the goal of the game is meant to be so that people wouldn't play with such incompatible playstyles.
Thats probably why LoL is the most popular game on pc by far. Especially in North America. RIOT are the ones who have sole control of tournaments, and they really encourage fair play and competitive matches in the core game and at all skill levels.
These other games have numerous tournaments and hosts and formats and rules. SO no wonder these pro gamers feel entitled to change the format of the game. Alot of it feels really shady at times. I'm waiting for another developer to realize there is money in leagues and cashing in so its less corruptible.
Relying on the community is archaic just like dedicated servers are now. To much room for abuse.
