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This has possibly been the most heavily overpriced event i've ever seen on a game frankly, it's pretty disgusting.
I respect the fact that respawn do need to see some healthy profit margins but this was not the way to do it. They've clearly buckled under EA pressure, but hey that doesn't effect me i won't be spending a penny on this event. 🤓
"Invoking gratitude by giving out something small for free"
Like... the entire game? :S
Do some of you forget why you're playing games or something, lol.
- 6 years ago
I actually quite like some of those characters skins, and I'd have probably been willing to pay a little more money for those special boxes than for the normal ones. But "more" to me means $2-3, maaaaybe $4 (but likely not). With the existing system though it's completely out of the question for me to spend any money on this. Just not going to happen under any circumstances.
I suppose whoever did the calculations for this came to the conclusion that betting on business from people who are just willing to drop whatever on stuff like this will make them more in the long run than getting less each time but from more players. Which is ultimately good for my wallet, because as I said I might've been tempted at lower prices.
"Thar she blows!", and all that. Happy hunting, EA...
- 6 years ago@TheRealJayDee1 I like the skins too. A lot of people do and I haven't seen a single person outright tell another player to not buy them. If you like something then buy it, you're perfectly entitled to do so and make decisions regardless of what others think.
It's nice to see you and so many other people being more conscious of how they invest their money into this event, if at all. I hope you can put the money you save to better and more beneficial use can fund this greed machine.
But after all... EA don't want to keep their customers happy. They want to keep them invested.
For example, I was discussing the troubles surrounding Anthem with an employee of EA. We both played it and both found the game to be virtually unplayable, like so many others. I went to this person and said, "How could I file an actual complaint to EA to tell them I'm not happy with the product?" (as they were involved in community support for the company)
They replied, "you basically can't".
Why?
Well according to them, whenever someone complains, the developers have to specifically take the time to look into the issues raised, which is good I thought. But in reality? It is overall considered to be a waste of resources to EA. Why take the time to look into one problem after another when you can refine the ways you get returning profits through the content they churn out?
That's why things like Anthem are still massively flawed.
They didn't pull people from its production team because they did a bad job or that they want to improve the quality of upcoming IPs like Dragon Age 4.
Noooooo... They are employed solely to make said upcoming IPs a functional financial success.
- 6 years ago@Anlbrd I certainly hear what you're saying. Many people share your view on the matter and it is a valid point to make. As yes, there are a lot of members of the game's community who expect everything to be served up to them on a golden platter at no additional cost.
However you have to bare in mind that majority of the outrage witnessed here doesn't come from people demanding these extras be free, but rather more easily accessible.
Ask yourself this...
Who is more deserving of special rewards for investing their time into Apex Legends?
Those who grind the challenges and play and support the game despite the controversy?
Or those with deep wallets and a penchant to spend the first chance they get?
Players just want to feel like they're being appreciated for the time and money they put into the game. But can that appreciation be sufficient when currently all it is, is randomised loot boxes that denies the player of choice when trying to obtain the things they like unless they keep spending?- 6 years ago@dtOddity92 My point would be that no one ***deserves*** anything in the game, honestly. If EA want to capitalise on whales and provide millions of us with a free game because people with more money are willing to pay more money - then complaining at not getting that content seems a bit daft to me.
Other people paying a lot more means the vast majority get a better product whilst not paying anything. In that regard this business model benefits the majority of people with little to no money to spend on games.
One issue might be how much EA are preying on people with gambling addictions and that they're not subject to the same restrictions as gambling websites etc, but barely anyone complaining about the prices of these products is doing it in a humanitarian "EA need to be more responsible" tone.
I'm SERIOUSLY dubious about begging the gubment anywhere to come in with their heavy boots and start putting restrictions on the business practises of games developers/publishers. What we're more likely to see than a reduction in this sort of practise is an INCREASE of it, post-regulation, and lots of new and exciting hoops to jump through like ID verification and needing to see a "please gamble sensibly" advert that we can't skip or mute every 3 games.- 6 years ago@Anlbrd I really love this response. It certainly is an interesting take on the aspect of whether or not anyone actually does deserve to be rewarded at all.
It is true that complaining may seem unproductive, but when you consider those who do complain and criticise don't necessarily know how to go about it in a way that'll truly endorse change, what else can be expected when a community such as this experiences what they believe to be a problem?
The abundant use of aggressive tones, as you rightly say, isn't the correct approach to take in most cases.
From what I've seen on Reddit over the last few days alone, humanitarianism is certainly something sorely missing.
I for one have been called all manner of foul things by users just for saying I dislike what's happening.
But when sites and forums like this and reddit are seemingly the only vessels in which players can attempt to get their voices heard, is this situation not even further flawed when the consumer cannot access a proper procedure in which to combat something they feel is unethical?
Like with oh so many saying, "well we need to get the government to sort this out and punish EA because they're villains", it greater emphasises the trouble in the gaming industry where the consumer is only able to put their hope in greater powers to bring about change with the ultimate realisation being that the consumer's say on the matter is drowned out by how the products they criticise are marketed.
"Loot boxes are just surprise mechanics and they're totally ethical, people shouldn't have the right to complain".
Sure, EA would no doubt squeeze through every hole they can find to make money, but would said increase of monetisation schemes be all that bad?
Sounds hypocritical I know, but hear me out... If legislations were in place, would that not give the consumer greater semblance of control over how their money is invested. They may have to jump through extra hoops, but at least then a player who feels cheated or coerced into something they're not happy with can better find a platform in which to support their case.
Yes, some players of these games have issues with mental health that manifest in gambling addictions, but right now if you buy a game from some place like the Xbox Live Marketplace it specifically states that any and all transactions are non-refundable.
Nowhere at this point in time can someone with a gambling addiction, who let's say has purchased 100 lots of premium currency for a given game, claim their money back due to the fact they did it by choice.
Through pushing for better industry standards people like this would feel less pressure if they knew things that are done impulsively thanks to their disorders, can in some form or another combat the system which denies them the right to challenge their situation.
I remember attempting to file an official complaint about Anthem once. I literally couldn't play it due to all the in-game issues that wouldn't allow a single successful session.
When speaking with a representative of Anthems support team, I was told that they can't let the players file official complaints as they have to file them under bug reports instead.
This was because the company wasn't allowed to admit the flaws in their product.
I mentioned in a recent comment I made on another player's post on the matter that EA aren't looking to keep customers happy, just invested.
Anthem's production team weren't pulled from the project because they did bad work, they were simply moved to the next project to help ensure it's a financial success.
So although people do seem daft for complaining about frills cosmetic items for a free to play game, you can't deny that there's a greater issue to be explored here.
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