“Anti-recoil controllers are NOT cheating.”
I’m a little upset that the some people are so complacent in this notion, which is actually supported by Respawn and EA. For those of you who don’t know, the top 20% of players in the console w...
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@PODERINGPUGALIST Sorry but you are way off, your maths doesnt add up and its the A typical "gitgud" response.
In ranked if the top 2% is diamond and above technically the skill level drops down as you go below that.......... heres the thing though, it doesnt.
The problem is that in a free game 1 cheater isnt just one, they are a repeat offending scourge, they come back again and again, so there is as much chance of meeting a cheater in that 2% as there is catching one that just opened a fresh account on bronze.
I wouldnt soil my fingers with a console but M&K no recoil scripts are literally fully customisable for every weapon and a lot of attachments.
And how does no recoil offer no advantage? Instead of aiming and controlling spray all you have to do is track and left click.......
Im suspicious of
1, people who beam from distance with a 301 whilst both you and they are moving, they should at least miss with a couple of bullets but they dont.
2. octanes stimming cqc, jumping sliding, flicking 180s and landing every single shot.
Ive watched pros play in these scenarios and miss yet your telling me that low and mid tier scrubs are better than them????
I think your confusing peoples in game ability with your inability to understand the complexity and myriad of cheats available.
Basic math....... every developer on the planet will tell you conservatively that 5% of the player base is cheating, think how that equates per game?
I know it doesnt exactly work like that but 5 out 100 players are potentially cheating, thats not a myth, thats fact and "IF" they are banned they just pop straight back, basic cheats offer HWID and IP spoofing so there is literally nothing stopping them
In ranked if the top 2% is diamond and above technically the skill level drops down as you go below that.......... heres the thing though, it doesnt.
The problem is that in a free game 1 cheater isnt just one, they are a repeat offending scourge, they come back again and again, so there is as much chance of meeting a cheater in that 2% as there is catching one that just opened a fresh account on bronze.
I wouldnt soil my fingers with a console but M&K no recoil scripts are literally fully customisable for every weapon and a lot of attachments.
And how does no recoil offer no advantage? Instead of aiming and controlling spray all you have to do is track and left click.......
Im suspicious of
1, people who beam from distance with a 301 whilst both you and they are moving, they should at least miss with a couple of bullets but they dont.
2. octanes stimming cqc, jumping sliding, flicking 180s and landing every single shot.
Ive watched pros play in these scenarios and miss yet your telling me that low and mid tier scrubs are better than them????
I think your confusing peoples in game ability with your inability to understand the complexity and myriad of cheats available.
Basic math....... every developer on the planet will tell you conservatively that 5% of the player base is cheating, think how that equates per game?
I know it doesnt exactly work like that but 5 out 100 players are potentially cheating, thats not a myth, thats fact and "IF" they are banned they just pop straight back, basic cheats offer HWID and IP spoofing so there is literally nothing stopping them
PODERINGPUGALIST, so you pretty much admit to use Strike Pad and try its added aim assists and no-recoil functions, even if its just to try it/test it.
And i`m supposedly to believe you are not using them any longer or just use it for paddles?
And i`m yet to believe that the hundreds of videos on youtube ad Strike Pad, Cronus(zen/max and so on) and now there is a new device, calling Winter something, that is even more powerful are not existing? And every single one of this clips is watched more than 10k. times, and guess how many of this peoples are using it?
I`m yet to believe that somehow so many console players are becoming Pros in a no time, they come from nowhere and in a nick of time they are getting absolutely top level at one of the hardest FPS games out there ? You know i stop believing in Santa long long ago. So many people are using Apex Xin as well, so saying that aim assist is not a super powerful is just ridiculous. Everyone with a sense of skill knows how powerful aim assists is. Every pro who is on MnK is talking about it. And even the best MnK players are losing to a controller players.
And they are even adding a stronger aim assists and literally no-recoil.
And can we stop with the nonsenses that recoil is so easy? Recoil on Apex is one of the hardest recoil, not because of the recoil pattern, tho there is a lot of guns with a lot of horizontal recoil, that are pretty much impossible to match, but the main reason is movement, bullet spread, bullet drop, million different distances(depends on it, its kick differently), as well as the different optics, and most importantly movement.
Its one thing to stand still and memorize the pattern, but its completely different when you have to deal with so much movement, on hand your movement and on other, enemy player movement, and you have high speed movement, and you also have to perfectly be able to tracking, which require a lot of years.
And just because you are playing 10 hours a day, that doesn`t mean a thing. This is not how you get good actually, and improve. You will diminish your return and mostly overtrain and will get stuck. Its not like i`m not having ninjas that playing for 10+ hours a day Apex exclusively, and i`m destroying them with my 1.5 hours of aim/movement training at day(and i`m not touching Apex).
As far as you are somehow better in just 1-2 days of MnK use over a 2 years of controller i will just said, than you are just not good with controller at all. Getting a top(not world class) Aim is a very very hard task, and require a lot of years in hard practicing, not just mindlessly playing a X game.
Still i`m very open to see that with my own eyes.
Recoil is a big thing, and totally change the way you approach the aiming in Apex Legends. Guys like ShivFPS who have 111k and its 100% legit, as well as Hakis, and Reps(just to mention a few), guys spend so much time playing, improving and try to get better at everything, you can clearly see their recoil, you can clearly see it, when they are trying to shoot really fast, when they chasing and how they lose the recoil, which is normally, no matter your skill level, and how the recoil kicks at certain distance with certain range, as well as how bullets are going, as well as when they are "airborne" and recoil kicks very hard, and yet you have players that for some reason this laws aren`t working for them. Somehow they have insane aim movement, they are lifting their mouse big time, they are doing all the flashy stuffs in the world(which will 100000% mean you will lose the recoil way way more often), and they somehow have absolutely no-recoil at all.
And again its not just an Apex problem. Warzone is absolutely filled with so many cheaters atm, its not even funny.
Everyone with a sense of brain, not just a rage cheat kid, who are going blatant, will know how to hide his cheat, and to looks legit.
Every single time someone is saying recoil is super easy to control, and its not a thing i just remember this streamer, and how he is saying, i`m just good at controlling the recoil. I`m just good. And everything would have been fine, if he wasn`t f****** up and showing his Engine Owning, trying to prove he ain`t running any cheats on his Task Manager ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A63Td6qeyc
BTW there is thousands of no-recoil, soft cheats sites for Apex and Warzone, and they are claiming, that their "software" hasn`t been detected from the very beginning, and they have thousands of people using it, as well as top streamers. And just to clarify this, this is their words, not mine.
I have a few conversation with some of them, because i was so suspicious of some people, and they just prove my point.
- @LordloshBang All excellent points.
also you have people being banned at Predater level ONLY because streamers and pros call them out, that means they have climbed up through all the ranks with respawn none the wiser. - @LordloshBang
I agree. If a person knows what he's doing with his cheats, they will get away with it until someone else using the same cheat will not customize it appropriately and so will expose the cheat to be included among EAC's checks and be eventually banned that way.
However, custom made cheats, which I would guess would cost much more and be only accessible to an "elite" audience, will be protected from unskilled cheat users reducing exposure by a lot.
There also are cheats that run on hardware, not a simple macro, but actual radar and aimbot. These cheats are not detectable by anticheats.
I would point to a source, but I'd rather keep unlisted --it is a youtuber who exposed that type of cheat a while ago (I'd imagine by now that cheat has been improved by a large margin). The thing with Console or lets said it controller cheats, its they are devices, and good luck detecting and banning them.
The guys that are selling such devices, are the same that are selling different controllers for example. And even they promoting them for their stuffs like lowering recoil and stronger aim assists and so.
But you can`t do a ****, because they will just say, we are not telling them to use them in multiplayer game, but in SP for example. :D
And there is 1 more thing, if you play on console, not controller on PC, but on Console i think they are not banning Console players. :D
And there is some new stuffs coming. There is Apex Xin, which trick the system you are on controller, when you are on MnK, and so many other stuffs like X-Ray and so on.
And yeah from what i`m seeing they are banning just the blatant ones.
Usually Anti-Cheats work this way:1.Signature detection
2.Stat analysis
3. User reports
The thing you said is right, but for them to put the cheat on their EAC database check, and ban it everytime someone run it, they need to get the signature of the cheat, but that is a difficult thing. They have to find the cheat and buy it. :D
And the Cheat developer seeing their cheat is getting detected, will just mod it, and good luck.Thats why todays private cheats(even the cheap one) are with subscription, and they are constantly "improving/changing" them.
I`m thrilled with how many forums there is out there for cheating in Apex, Warzone and other games. And threads in there are with 50-100k. views.
I just looked a thread in reddit, and one guy just show a screenshot(won`t post it, cause EA will delete my post) on a forum and first 5-6 thread, and all of them have insane amount of views ....
The main problem is the new cheats/devices are so smooth and its super hard to say if the guy is cheating or not. And if a skilled player is using it, its literally impossible. He will use it on toggle, and on it, when he is in the need of it or so.The way i see it, they are banning the blatant ones, but they are doing nothing with it, cause they are on a new acc in the very next 2 minutes ....
They are actually doing absolutely nothing.
And the reality is they just don`t care. Removing every single cheater will mean way less player base, which will also mean less money for them ....
FPS games currently are in a real bad state to be fair.
I like so much Apex and Warzone, and both games are so hard infested, its not fun playing anymore. All the hard work you put on aim trainers, training Ingame, FR and so on, its just so frustrating.
- @LordloshBang No recoil is not cheating in the early 90s and late 90s and early 2000s there are no recoil in video games
Your correct, I've researched this issue in the past. While they can suspend accounts, it is an issue with the issue arising from the controllers, making in undetectable. Where on pc, if the cheat were to be found. Your video card would get flagged and no coming back to the game. Seemingly anyone traveling with built in ESP and Heavily Aim Assisted exploits are rampant in all FPS games, since cross platform has been introduced. The best times, is when "Pro" players, bring the crutches to events and the team can't put up the skill needed at live events and are shunned by promoters after being caught.
Cheater controllers are fully undetectable online. There is no communication between LIVE or Network and our modded controller. You will not get banned for using them during game play.
Spectate and you'll see people look at the ground then quick snap to a seemingly innocuous location then does it a couple more times. They are ESPing where the other people are and running like a fly to * to aim bot a victory. That * gets old, and how is that entertaining ruining the skill aspect of the effort for a reward of a script is performing its assigned task. Only so fun being unstoppable with zero skill on the community these people make lasting connections at. Before long, those 150 dollar controllers will have the exploit exposed be I doubt the developers are going to warn the cheaters when the goose gets cooked.
It happened a few years back, in H1Z1 the developer found a overly exploitable issue and banned everyone using it. Then perpetrators only recourse was they had the option to beg the dev's over twitter with apologies and good deeds to be invited back.
https://www.gamestop.com/gaming-accessories/controllers/pc/products/cronus-zen-controller-adapter/221448.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAgbiQBhAHEiwAuQ6BkvF3KMBw5P6QGb0Vg0AQmFVqhnn-gEE7v6yoGTXRzN554m2F3P0unBoCNuoQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds what I am referring to is the cronos system
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