4 years ago

Apex is ramping up its anti-cheat security!

I'm happy to report that apex will be ramping up its manual banning of cheaters. Hideouts, the ban hammer of apex, tweeted out that Respawn has hired two new people to watch games and ban cheaters. T...

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pandareno1999

Hero+

4 years ago

@Cheese9Man wrote:

On the other hand, there are multiple reports and videos (which I will not show) of new cheats where there's an automatic G7 scout and a 1 shot kraber-like flatline. So be careful out there and be sure to report them especially for the PC folks in the forums.

You described that perfectly - I mean, exactly the way I described it after it happened to me and my friend last night. Wish I had clipped it. Seen some sus recoil in my time but this was next level, for console anyway. Death recap said 6 flatline head shots.

Zero-Loot5
4 years ago
@pandareno1999 But where? WHERE do I report this? When I send a report to EA Customer Service about cheaters in which I even provide clear video evidence in 4K60Hz I get the answer "Yeah unfortunate but we can't do anything. Please report it in game".

When I send it to easy anti cheat directly I get no answer - ever. And apart from that there are only THREE people that manually handle bans. And the fact that this is actually sold as something great is ridiculous. Until now only Connor was responsible for banning. Literally just ONE PERSON for the biggest BR with hundreds of thousands of players every day. Now it's three people. Like...wow...amazing.
When normal people reply to Connor they usually don't get an answer cause how the hell is he supposed to handle all of this as one person?

So tell me: WHERE can I reliably report cheaters?
- Sati_Sati
  4 years ago
  Today, I saw many reporting posts to @RSPN_ShikokuInu about CS hardware cheat.
  (Like converter, xim? strikepack? I don't know the exact name.)
  Many many posts. Also you can see those posts on twitter.
  I feel like Respawn hold the Region Specific Big Event.
  Hmm... some news said that works.
  But I suppose we need some more times to see the result and what is going on. 🤔
  - Eshshshss
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @Sati_Satismoke and mirrors that's all there is to it.
    
    In every FPS game so far I have seen there are only the following anti-cheat that actually do work:
    
    a) either you develop state of the art automatic cheat (that usually goes berserk and at some point bans too many people e.g. you landing lucky 5 headshots in a row) and upkeep it so that hackers are not ahead of you by much (read as much as currently in Apex)
    
    b) you have a small player base with people who have "admin rights" and can ban people = fortunately, or unfortunately will not happen in Apex, here you need a staff of probably 100s or even 1000s of people. This usually works before the game dies off e.g. it was the case in Quake 3 insta gib community back in the days, it was great even though you played vs the same 100-200 people daily.
    
    c) develop the game from the get-go without an opportunity to look through walls or have aim assist = clearly too late for that
    
    d) enable people to play locally organized games/tournaments where people somewhat know each other and/or can in a short run (game/tournament) ensure self-regulating system that actually works (e.g. every player must submit game demo after the match and/or have keystroke logger enabled during the game) = probably not gonna happen in Apex due to various reasons
    e) scare people with perm-bans so that they do not dare to use cheats - mu ha ha ha ha ha, like that ever worked :D
- Eshshshss
  Seasoned Ace
  4 years ago
  @Zero-Loot5 here, but not mentioning names or uploading video plus in any case given what you said (and it seems to be true / wide spread rumor) no action will be taken anyways :D
  
  As for the easy cheat - clearly, it is not working (based on what we are seeing in-game) to the level of our expectations, and manual bans as you said are not reviewed (well they are at the snail's phase or slower) given my videos from July are still not viewed = there is at least 1+ month waiting list.
  
  Just suffer or play tournaments (ones where people actually do bother checking out player demos and stuff). It is what it is...