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Tspin's avatar
2 years ago

Apex Trivia Game: 9/10

It’s hilarious that professional streamers with 6,000+ hours can’t tell the difference between Aim Assistance and a cheater. 

Whether they meant to or not, they showed the disparity between MnK and Aim Assistance. The power of aim assistance software is vomit worthy. I can’t wait for the developers to nerf aim assistance.

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https://youtu.be/SJTf9bNJu0o?si=BueBdpX4MBCQNAX1

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  • honestly this video shows the opposite of what you wanted to point out and how superior mnk is compared to roller , every single time the guy on the right guess it's roller  his main comment that the movement is too slow and bad that's is how he knew it's a roller, add to it that the most impressive clips were from mnk players except for one or two .

    the only thing this video proved to me is how much of an .... the guy on the left is ( same as he got described at the end of the video ) .

    no offense tho he looks like a cool and nice person.

    this AA debate will never be over , I'm 100 % sure that even if the AA is removed people will find something else to complain about.

    so again , if it's that easy and that much op then just join the roller team.

    it's simple, if the roller is superior then why complain in here , just use the superior input (it's only 60 USD , cheaper than any gaming keyboard and mouse out there ) 🤷

  • Tspin's avatar
    Tspin
    2 years ago

    @maximas1986Actually they pointed out that every time a player nearly one clipped the enemy, it was a controller player.

    And if the player can’t land shots and is constantly on the brink of death, it’s a mouse and keyboard player.

    And when the players roast the enemy team they guessed it was a controller player when it was actually a cheater using aim bot software. And they couldn’t tell the difference between cheaters and aimbotters. Because they are the same thing.

  • so you want to tell me that all roller players can one clip enemies all the time but mnk players can't? 

    and regarding cheaters, the one on the right guessed it every time same as me , the only thing that raised a red flag for me is that they changed cheater to controller for one of them becuase he was a known streamer , that's to Me is  a bigger and more serious issue and I find that clip sus and need to watch more from that guy to confirm it.

    so again guy on the left I can not take his words for anything and he was clueless.

    and everytime he say "it's only roller can one clip " the other guy tell him to shut up while giving him the look 🥴

    one of the reasons he told him " you idiot " at the end of the video 

    anyway this is getting nowhere,so with all respect if roller is that much op as you said so get one and be the one who one clip everyone and dominate the lobby.....if you can.

    just saying 

  • Airish85's avatar
    Airish85
    2 years ago

    I think you are not seeing the full picture. The number of really mechanically talented MnK streamers is a handful as there are plenty very good roller players. 
    You have people who have put in a decade worth of hours of practice (Example ItsTimmy/Aceu) to be good enough to showcase their skill in this kinda videos and on the other side there can be 10y old kid who has played a half a year of Apex (Example E8 lilfredson). 

    It all comes to money and focus of EAs business plan. Rest of the World has always been more dominant and focused on MnK games (Example CS).
    As opposite the NA has been more roller market (CoD). Now as company EA has made the market survey on where they can get most money (as every company wants to do to stay alive). 
    And this is the result. Cant really blame the workers for making the decisions needed to keep their jobs or the companies needed to stay profitable. 

    The time and effort needed to be able to compete at the same level seems unfair to us players. I personally have been playing MnK shooters since DukeNukem and online since Unreal Tournament & Enemy Territory. Tried some Xbox shooters but joystick aim seems unnatural for me. But like I tried to explain above its not about me. So its about getting those youngsters in easier. And like they said their business plan is to make Apex 20 year game so dont expect any big changes to AA. 

  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @Tspin

    "And they couldn’t tell the difference between cheaters and aimbotters. Because they are the same thing."

    This is such a stark example of false equivalence that I feel like I'm being baited. These pc controller players already have god-like aim, and they're looking for a tiny edge by switching to controller. If controller aa was really even remotely close to an aimbot then by definition console players would all have 95% accuracy. Which, in case you were laboring under any misconception, is NOT the case. Not even close. Not even the same ballpark. Or game. Or universe.

    I'm sorry that pc players face these problems, and if you're suggesting that Respawn solve the problem by detecting pc players' input devices and adjusting accordingly, then I'm all for it. If, on the other hand, you're suggesting they just drop aa across the board, including for console players, then I'd ask you to think about the consequences very carefully. And if you're having trouble imagining what they might be then feel free to ask. I'll give you my opinion.
  • Tspin's avatar
    Tspin
    2 years ago

    Nobody is going to swap 10,000 hours of MnK practice for a “tiny edge”. Aim assistance is inhumanly powerful.


    A controller player that swaps to mouse and key would never be able to be as good as they were when they had aim assistance. Hence why professionals are forced to trashcan 10,000+ hours of MnK for controller aim assistance ALONE.

    Nobody cares about console aim assistance or console players. Console is not competitive. PC ranked and Comp/LAN tourneys that have dual inputs need to be BALANCED. Consoles should only be able to que with PC in non-ranked lobbies and LMT’s. The power of aim assistance on PC is disgusting and needs to be balanced to MnK.

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    2 years ago
    @maximas1986 One other thing to add is every one clip was on a player either straight lining or not moving. Even a good mnk player could have clipped those. The only ones they had trouble guessing were the 1 second lucky shot ones.

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