Ash - OP or Trash?
New legends are tough to balance, we get that. Of all the legends introduced since I started playing in Season 4, I think Valk is the only legend who has come in balanced (and even then she had a sli...
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After a week of Ash I am going to say ... trash.
I've had Ashs (Ashes?) in my squad plenty of times and only once has the 'deathbox mark' thingie even come up. One Ash suddenly said 'enemy there' but they were 200-300 metres away.
In around 200 games I've had the 'postion marked by Ash' message come up less than ten times.
Her tactical is just like getting caught on a rubber band for two seconds. Scary!
The phase tear is very hard to use and get right. I did have an enemy Ash just appear from nowhere, but she just stood among us an our squad was like WTF? for a split second before downing her. I also went through a phasre tear where the exist was two metres from the entrance. It's no match for a Wraith portal.
Fusey is also annoyed that his abilities damage himself, but Ash's tactical doesn't.
I expect buffs in the future as Ash's pick rate plummets. Maybe you can't use your weapon when ensnared?
@EdwardDLuffy Why does it either have to be OP or trash
For me she is balanced. Her passive isn't that useful unless you are close enough to get to the other people which is hard on this map. I have a feeling it will be more useful on the other maps.
Her tactical is easy to dodge at distance but a skilled ash knows how to use it. And getting stuck in it sucks when the player you face is skilled. Because they typically use it close where they can shoot you as you are stuck.
The phase tear is actually pretty solid in the right hands. Unlike wraiths portal she doesn't have to run the route. So good a good ash uses it to get to height or quickly rotate into good position.
Ash is like any character though, better skilled people use her better. And remember she has been out less than a week so people are still learning.
For me she is balanced. Her passive isn't that useful unless you are close enough to get to the other people which is hard on this map. I have a feeling it will be more useful on the other maps.
Her tactical is easy to dodge at distance but a skilled ash knows how to use it. And getting stuck in it sucks when the player you face is skilled. Because they typically use it close where they can shoot you as you are stuck.
The phase tear is actually pretty solid in the right hands. Unlike wraiths portal she doesn't have to run the route. So good a good ash uses it to get to height or quickly rotate into good position.
Ash is like any character though, better skilled people use her better. And remember she has been out less than a week so people are still learning.
- @hayhor Because that's the thread's title?
- @EdwardDLuffy Are you DZK? Is this why characters get buffs and nerfs that do not make sense?
- @hayhor rofl good one but I do agree with you here, Hayor. I think she's pretty balanced compared to other legends in the last season (except Valk). But I do understand why other people are saying that her passive is overpowered. I would like to see a radius change here so she can't see the whole map and that change would be comprehensible.
- @hayhor Er ... no. The point of the original post (which you seem to have ignored/forgotten) was that Respawn usually release new characters to Apex who are either trash (Fuse, Rampart) or OP (Horizon, Seer). Occassionally, they get it right (Valk, mainly).
I was therefore asking people if they think Ash will be released trash or that she will be released OP. It's not either/or, it's if she will fit into either of these catergories. I resurrected the thread as I think Ash is trash.
If you think Ash is balanced then that is fair enough, but that's not what I was asking in the first place. The thread title was not 'Ash - OP, Balanced or Trash.'
Sure, Ash can be balanced. She DOESN'T have to be OP or Trash, I would have thought that was obvious, but that is not what I was asking.
But if you want to be a little bit rude about it, go ahead. - @EdwardDLuffy You've lost me. On one hand you told me I can't answer because I didn't say she was OP or trash. But on the other you say she can be balanced?
So basically if you worked at Burger King I couldn't have it my way. It's either no burger or burger with default stuff. - @EdwardDLuffy Ain't no way you called her trash with a fuse avatar 😛
She is good, some fine tuning needed for sure. And from what I could make of your description, you are recounting your experience of having Ash on your team or going against one. Not that you used her. Remember when Valk launched, people would fly around and get knocked...
@MadameRose66 I think her passive should only be for locating deathboxes in close range and marking the attackers. Not a live deathbox scan of whole map.
Maybe a speed increase in tac, I wouldn't mind :D - @hayhor When did I say you can't answer?
- @BaldWraithSimp Eh! Drongo, no coldies for you if you insult my bonzer buddy!
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