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@hayhor
Well, I mean "waste of time" as far as the BP is concerned. And with a challenge heavy system, what I said isn't exactly incorrect. With each Star needing 5K XP and each BP level needing 50K XP, without challenges, it definitely would take longer to finish the BP without them than it would with them. Basically, the more challenges you are unable (or unwilling) to do, the bigger grind you make for yourself.
And, the more often that happens, the easier it is for your time to feel like a waste, or at least feel like it's getting much less "value" than it could be.
And, yes, I know, it's a game. And the goal is to have fun, but I would also like the things I'm paying for* to be obtained in a reasonable amount of time for reasonable amount of effort. But, with this system, the more challenges you don't do, the more and more time you have to put into just playing/getting XP, which (at least for me) can turn my time with Apex more into a chore than fun. And, this wasn't really something I felt in the old system, as I've said in other posts, hence my issue with the current system..
*Also, yes, I said the pass I paid for. Now, I know some people reading that will say "Well, you technically only pay for the first pass, every pass beyond that is free, due to the coins you get". And, to that I say: you're right... Provided you decide to never purchase anything else in the game, ever. But, if you buying anything more than that pass, you will have to stick more money into the game. And, I can't speak for anyone else, but I definitely spend more than those extra 50 coins you get with the premium BP, each season. So, usually by the time the next battle pass rolls around, I need to buy more coins to get it, because I bought other stuff in the game.
- E9ine_AC5 years agoHero+@JonStriker126 *Also, yes, I said the pass I paid for. Now, I know some people reading that will say "Well, you technically only pay for the first pass, every pass beyond that is free, due to the coins you get". And, to that I say: you're right... Provided you decide to never purchase anything else in the game, ever. But, if you buying anything more than that pass, you will have to stick more money into the game. And, I can't speak for anyone else, but I definitely spend more than those extra 50 coins you get with the premium BP, each season. So, usually by the time the next battle pass rolls around, I need to buy more coins to get it, because I bought other stuff in the game.
This is a players choice. You can either buy the pass once or buy it multiple times. So if you choose to spend your coins then yea you will have to purchase the next. So all in all the theory of buying only 1 pass is completely true. Its then up to the player to decide if they want to keep this trend going or spend more money.
No matter the excuses given on this topic nothing can back up the claims of it being a time sink. You have how many on this topic commenting on how easy it actually is? Verse the dislikes. Yall are heavily out numbered here.
I have loads of challenges not even complete a total of over 2 weeks of challenges yet I'm done with the pass. Whats the problem here? I have multiple weeks not even done. Week 7, 0 out of 8 week 8 zero out of 8 week 1 through 7 I'm missing more then 24 challenges being done. Yet I'm done with the battle pass and hardly worried about challenges. - 5 years ago
I have loads of challenges not even complete a total of over 2 weeks of challenges yet I'm done with the pass. Whats the problem here? I have multiple weeks not even done. Week 7, 0 out of 8 week 8 zero out of 8 week 1 through 7 I'm missing more then 24 challenges being done. Yet I'm done with the battle pass and hardly worried about challenges.It sounds like Apex is your main/only hobby then. You probably play for hours and hours, every day. And, that's great. But that's not the reality for most of us who play the game. And therefore, our experience/take on the game will be different than yours. Doesn't mean you're right and we're wrong. Or vice versa. It's just different perspectives is all.
Also, as for what you said here:
"The game does care about the player on their game. Why should they cater their battle pass to ensure players can do other games battle passes?
This is of zero concern nor care to them. They provide a game and its system it should not cater to a player who wishes to play multiple games and multiple battle passes."
Technically, that is all very true. But, companies need to realize that they aren't the only game in town (pun intended). And if people feel their time and effort isn't being valued, then they'll take that (and their money) elsewhere. That is the reality, as well.
- hayhor5 years agoHero@JonStriker126 Similar question for you- What is in the pass you want or need?
I'm asking these questions wondering why I get it myself btw 🤣 - 5 years ago
@hayhor
Well, in general, I like having crafting materials. Especially when anything from collection events are so expensive without them. Also, I liked both legendary skins in this pass for the legends. And I liked the r99 skins too. I currently don't even have a legendary skin for the r99 so it would be nice to have one. I also did like some of the emotes, especially because I don't have any emotes for some of the legends that are featured this season.
And, if I continue to play the game, those are all things that I would like to have. And, obviously, none of this is really a need. I don't need to have any of this stuff, but I also don't need to play the game either. It's something that I like to do because I do enjoy the core gameplay. however, that doesn't mean I don't have issues with other parts of the game, like the current battle pass system.Also, honestly, I don't know what season 8 will bring and I'm just hoping that it's a better experience for me than this one. I won't really know if it is or isn't until it happens. As Ive said before, in other threads, season 7 is/was kind of a test season for me, in terms of the new system. I don't really like it as is, but maybe they'll make changes going forward. Who knows? I'm sticking around to see what they do.
- OldTreeCreeper5 years agoHero+
@hayhor wrote:
@JonStriker126Similar question for you- What is in the pass you want or need?
I'm asking these questions wondering why I get it myself btw 🤣@hayhor that is a dam fine question. My answer is I don't know! There's nothing specific I desire. I bought the BP without thinking too much about it. I have the coin saved up so why not. I also save up the cm for Wraith skins. So I guess those are the 2 reasons I buy and play for the BP.
Saying that I thought the Bloodhound skin in S6 was a superb must have skin.
After buying the BP I didn't like the initial grind they applied, it made the whole thing much more pressurised for a game and took the joy out of it.
The double xp and extra levels has helped make it less so. Also the dailies aren't too difficult. I'm around 74 now so should make the full BP 110 before the end of season just playing normally.
What is interesting is that I now play my first 2 games every day as the daily challenge legend. Previously I rarely played any other legend than Wraith, for any challenge, weekly or daily. I still don't try too hard for the weekly non wraith challenges despite some of them being for a entire BP level, 10 stars!
So it seems that the star system is working on me in a small daily way and I'm enjoying it. 😃
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