Buffs, nerfs and reworks
All community legend changes here! If you have an idea, post it below and I’ll add it! if you wish to change something that’s already here I’ll message the author, and we’ll have a discussion! I ...
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Mirage...
Then on Q he could have 2 of clones, and ULT could do the teleport to clone. He's a trickster, and need to be like others- Competitive.
That Multy Ulty is stupid. Or to say, non-competitive.
Valk
passive same, lover fuel, no scan beacon
Q is OK
ULT solo flying, scan or no scan enemyes, whatever.
Revenent... can't be hit by Q of other's Rev's.
Fuse Same with other Fuse Q. Fuse realy need ULT with more dmg. Smaller area but whole in fire, without scan.
@gromovina I do agree with the two clones, but not teleportation, that would make him the next valk, and we really don’t need another one of those. I agree with the rev thing, because he already has the silence in him, so he should be immune. I disagree with the fuse grenade, it’s a grenade, it should hurt (we could give him three tho) I think his ult should still only have the ring, but be an ability free zone, so it’s not so easy to escape. Let me know what you think, I won’t add any of this without your approval! Happy gaming!
I dont know, but Mirage is useless now. With that he would be in spotlight, untill they nerf him with longer time for ULT.
I never played with him that I remember. I just propose, what is good to do with some legend that is on no go zone.
That Mirage ULT is like in LoL Zed.
- @gromovina How about the mirage death decoy looks like an actual downed mirage, and points a knock down shield ad the closest enemy. This last the same duration as the current one. I think this won’t make him too OP too quick, let me know if you think this is a good idea or not, I won’t add it if you don’t think it would be more balanced.
I think this Mirage ULT would be like Ash Ult, not better. Becouse enemy always can destroy his clones. He could sent 2 of them, shoot to protect them, then teleport on one clone and so on.
But if you destroy clones, he will be stuck there and be dead. But Ash can make tunnel always.
Its not OP, its creative and more intresting than 6 bamboozles.
Like I sad, Idont like Mirage at all.
Pathy is damage dealer in this piont. If he gets some of this that we mention, he must get some nerfs with time of Q. His ULT is somehow become useless without something just for Pathy.
- @gromovina I’ll add them! Sorry I was under the impression you meant for all decoys, and still have the regular number for his ult, I’ll add your changes.
Wattson
She need to go trough enemy Wattson traps.
- @gromovina Like the fuse thing, I believe it should hurt everyone, as this is beams of electricity. I would be open to another thing tho, like making the electric part of her fence invisible, or giving the nodes more health. I just don’t think giving every legend the ability to be immune to their own legends enemy stuff is a good idea for the health of gameplay.
Copying my post from the Mirage thread:
Very interesting tweet appeared on this today but the conversation includes the f word so I cannot copy the image. Sounds like the dev team may be taking a look at the interaction between Mirage's and Seer's ultimates.
Look for a conversation between Albralelie, Zach Mazer and Josh Medina to find this.
- @pandareno1999 Possibly a buff? It could be his ult turns him invisible, that might also disrupt the scan? Or, the scan may lose the ability to detect which are decoys and which one is the real mirage? If this never comes to light I’ll add it, but I really want to see what transpires. If you have any other speculations all add them to the new expected/leaked section of the post!
@BigMacAttack8u It just needs for the decoys' darned footsteps to show up in Seer's ult. That's the tell - the decoys don't have red footsteps. The footsteps already make a lot of noise, so it's only logical that they would also show up on the scan. AFAIK it actually worked this way when Seer was released, and was not mentioned in any patch notes as being changed. So I think it's merely bugged. The only direct counter that Seer should currently have to Mirage is the decoys having no heart beats on the passive scan.
- @pandareno1999 Honestly that passive should be removed, or at least heavily changed, it really is to OP (it also doesn’t make a lot of sense, what does he hear for pathy, rev and ash??)
Just to notify every participant, I added a Loba buff from an outside post, as it has been one bouncing around for a while. I credited it with the author of the post I took it from, right next to it, just wanted to notify. I checked with the author of the post to make sure that they were okay with me adding it. Let me know if you disagree, or agree.
the buff for Loba:
she can now grab banners with her ult.
- @pandareno1999 I added the specificity to the expected changes section, and credited you right next to it, thanks!
Seer:
Remove passive
Valk:
Remove passive
If Valk and Seer passives are not removed then:
Lifeline:
Revert passive to previous one with shield
Gibby:
Remove 1-2 of his abillities and see if that puts him in a healthy spot
Lifeline:
Revert "guaranteed upgrade" nerf to her ult
- @CCbathwater Would you please look at the main page of changes first, some of these have already been added there.
- @BigMacAttack8u Literally none of them are listed there. Don't even see Gibby there at all, maybe I'm just blind.
- Hey, @CCbathwater
These the legends names are all caps, here are the seer lifeline and valk changes:
SEER:
increase ult cooldown
VALKYRIE:
Increase ult cooldown
increase boost up time
re-classify to movement, and remove beacon scanning from her passive.
Notify others when scanned with passive.
Scanning passive is moved to only skyward dive.
remove missile swarm, and replace with flying passive.
flying tactical now has slightly more fuel, but you can speed fly which uses triple fuel, but gives you a small quick getaway.
LIFELINE:
bring back the revive shield with 100hp
lifelines drone has its range set back to before, but can now be moved in the same fashion as Newcastle’s mobile shield.
I’ll add the removal of seers passive, do you have any replacement in mind, or should I put one in? Also the gibby changes seemed like you were coming off a bad experience with him, as removing 2 of his 3 abilities would be an absurd nerf. If you have any nerf buff or reworks for him, I can add those, but I don’t think breaking the 3 abilities per legend rule is a good idea. (It was already broken when they put I valk, so that’s what these changes address, an attempt to bring her back to the 3 or 4 ability norm.) Happy gaming! - @BigMacAttack8u I see some idea of Lifeline's shield having 100hp. That's not the same as a full revert to how it was pre-nerf. Basically 100hp is just the same as no shield.
Gibby could easily do without a gun shield (he's already got fortified) and fast dome-revive, which would serve as a tiny Lifeline and Newcastle buff at the same time. I'm not sure if it would be enough though, but it would be a start.
Seer doesn't need a replacement. He could however trade in his passive for a larger tac cone and larger ult AoE, cooldown times, whatever. He's got enough wallhacking without a passive. Or they could just, as have been suggested everywhere, allow Pathy, Ash, Rev, and any future artificials, to not show up on his heartbeat sensor, so he can't just 100% rely on his broken passive.
I do also believe I have, semi-jokingly, suggested in the past that Lifeline's sorry excuse for an ult, could also work as an anti-scan device. Which now, as the scan meta has gone completely overboard, doesn't seem so silly. It would be a good buff and would probably make her viable in ranked where scan characters run rampant. - @CCbathwater I’ll add the gibby changes, but all legends need to have a passive, do you want me to give seer a passive that just separates his tactical, like how crypto is currently. Passive curse of the flame: seer forces you to stop healing and reviving when he scans you with his tactical. I’ll double the revive shield health too. Thanks!
Best passive for many legends!
Pathy, Rev and Ash STEALTH for scan!
- @gromovina What do you mean by stealth for scan?
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