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How are you going to deal with cheaters that use ESP and aim bot on PC? After spectating players that are aimlocked on their targets i am not keen on playing anymore matches. Apex so far has been r...

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How are you going to deal with cheaters that use ESP and aim bot on PC?

After spectating players that are aimlocked on their targets i am not keen on playing anymore matches.

Apex so far has been really fun. I am willing to pay for a version of Apex if that means that cheaters can't make free accounts. 

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Games die with rampant cheaters lol pubg and fortnite are both filled with cheaters and they are the two most popular games in the world no big deal lol

not to mention that there are blatant videos of people cheating and I have yet to see them in apex yes there is cheating but y’all are blowing it way out of proportion 

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Games die with rampant cheaters lol pubg and fortnite are both filled with cheaters and they are the two most popular games in the world no big deal lol

not to mention that there are blatant videos of people cheating and I have yet to see them in apex yes there is cheating but y’all are blowing it way out of proportion 

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We take these reports very seriously. Both EA and Respawn are committed to ensuring Apex Legends is played fairly.

Here is a recent update posted last week by the Respawn team.

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CHEATERS

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As of today over 16,000 cheaters have been identified and banned from the game. Cheaters suck. If you run into one, please try and capture the evidence and let us know here: https://www.easy.ac/en-us/support/apexlegends/contact/report/

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Even if you don’t get proof, get their ID and flag it and we can investigate the account. We have heard your feedback about a report feature in the game. I’ll just say that’s a very good idea 🙂

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Source: https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/2-15-2019-An-Update-From-Respawn/m-p/7499686#M3821

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On the subject of cheat developers making more money than respawn:

One particularly notorious cheats provider reckons on shifting over a million downloads of their subscription cheat pack for Apex. Subscription I believe was in the region of $30 per month, guaranteed to beat Easy Anti-cheat on every update EAC makes.

If these numbers are to be believed, that company alone has already swagged $30,000,000. In a single month. Between the behaviour of the gaming industry itself, the vile market for cheats around it and the behaviour of the gaming community at large, multiplayer online gaming with a PC is absolute sewer.

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On the subject of cheat developers making more money than respawn:

One particularly notorious cheats provider reckons on shifting over a million downloads of their subscription cheat pack for Apex. Subscription I believe was in the region of $30 per month, guaranteed to beat Easy Anti-cheat on every update EAC makes.

If these numbers are to be believed, that company alone has already swagged $30,000,000. In a single month. Between the behaviour of the gaming industry itself, the vile market for cheats around it and the behaviour of the gaming community at large, multiplayer online gaming with a PC is absolute sewer.

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@Franco_Scala_12R wrote:

On the subject of cheat developers making more money than respawn:

One particularly notorious cheats provider reckons on shifting over a million downloads of their subscription cheat pack for Apex. Subscription I believe was in the region of $30 per month, guaranteed to beat Easy Anti-cheat on every update EAC makes.

If these numbers are to be believed, that company alone has already swagged $30,000,000. In a single month. Between the behaviour of the gaming industry itself, the vile market for cheats around it and the behaviour of the gaming community at large, multiplayer online gaming with a PC is absolute sewer.


My question was rhetorical, but your post don't surprise me. Very often, cheats may cost more that a paid game, so $30 per month is no surprise. Also, the cheat developer usualy inflate his download numbers, but if he says 1 milion, EA/Respawn should sue the cheat's company for more that $30 milion for the damage.caused. That would be interesting.  

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@Franco_Scala_12R wrote:

On the subject of cheat developers making more money than respawn:

One particularly notorious cheats provider reckons on shifting over a million downloads of their subscription cheat pack for Apex. Subscription I believe was in the region of $30 per month, guaranteed to beat Easy Anti-cheat on every update EAC makes.

If these numbers are to be believed, that company alone has already swagged $30,000,000. In a single month. Between the behaviour of the gaming industry itself, the vile market for cheats around it and the behaviour of the gaming community at large, multiplayer online gaming with a PC is absolute sewer.


My question was rhetorical, but your post don't surprise me. Very often, cheats may cost more that a paid game, so $30 per month is no surprise. Also, the cheat developer usualy inflate his download numbers, but if he says 1 milion, EA/Respawn should sue the cheat's company for more that $30 milion for the damage.caused. That would be interesting.  

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I don't know how other companies do it but i've seen cheaters in CoD, Destiny 2, LoL, Overwatch and even Rocket league so it feels to me that the problem is bigger than just EasyAntiCheat being a 'poor' anticheat provider","body@stringLength":"363","rawBody":"I see a lot of people bashing EasyAntiCheat. Can you provide a company who's anti cheat model would be a better fit for this game?

I don't know how other companies do it but i've seen cheaters in CoD, Destiny 2, LoL, Overwatch and even Rocket league so it feels to me that the problem is bigger than just EasyAntiCheat being a 'poor' anticheat provider","author":{"__ref":"User:user:898766"},"isEscalated":null,"postTime":"2019-02-23T02:32:20.999Z","parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:5228395"}},"ForumReplyMessage:message:5228402":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:5228402","revisionNum":1,"uid":5228402,"depth":12,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:apex-legends-general-discussion-en"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:5228350"},"subject":"Re: Cheaters are already rampant in Apex","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:5228402"},"body":"

VAC anti-cheat is the best imo. The anti cheat bans all public cheats and overwatch system takes care of all paid cheats. They should have used VAC and protect their investment and future growth of the game.

Games die as long as they have rampant cheaters in them.

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VAC anti-cheat is the best imo. The anti cheat bans all public cheats and overwatch system takes care of all paid cheats. They should have used VAC and protect their investment and future growth of the game.

Games die as long as they have rampant cheaters in them.

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Question to those who claiming that there are hackers everyhere: One which server do you play?

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If PUGB would deal with cheaters better, it would be even more succesfull. It seems PUBG continues to have more and more % asian players. Odd hu?

If you cant spot them they dont exist?  Really, then you are either a cheat yourself or you have no clue how to spot one. Try spectate some more. Especially those players with constant \"godlike\" aim and Pshycic \"guess\" abilities. You might notice some preaiming and ppl \"scouting\" through solid rock while they run! 

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you need to seriously wake up.  I am so sick of people like you making absurd statements. Cheaters are Rampant in this game... it's BAD... BAD.

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@neillkorey wrote:

Games die with rampant cheaters lol pubg and fortnite are both filled with cheaters and they are the two most popular games in the world no big deal lol

not to mention that there are blatant videos of people cheating and I have yet to see them in apex yes there is cheating but y’all are blowing it way out of proportion 


uhm, theres already people streaming themselfes aimbotting through maps in Apex on YT, almost acting proud of themselfes beeing \"better\" than others xD 

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The US servers are NOT rampant with hackers. I play every day for 4-6 hours and that one single incident is the only time I've felt suspicious. Otherwise I have fun with my friends and enjoy winning regularly.

If the cheaters are as bad as some of you say - RECORD THEM! REPORT THEM! And then move on.

The one video posted here is just garbage, that guy in question missed so many shots and generally was not that good but because he lands one headshot with a Wingman from far away he's suddenly a hacker. The Wingman is easy to snipe with.

Provide proof, report them and move on. It's not as bad as you all make it out to be - on US servers at least.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2019-02-24T00:46:29.198Z","lastPublishTime":"2019-02-24T00:46:29.198Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":755},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:apex-legends-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:apex-legends-general-discussion-en/message:5228350/message:5228411","repliesCount":17,"readOnly":false,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:2530832":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:2530832","uid":2530832,"login":"warslag","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2013-09-28T19:16:22.428+01:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1721239606000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:2530832"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:5228412":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:5228412","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:5228412":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2530832"},"id":"message:5228412","revisionNum":1,"uid":5228412,"depth":16,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:apex-legends-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:5228411"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:5228350"},"subject":"Re: Cheaters are already rampant in Apex","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:5228412"},"body":"

@Subcool789 wrote:
I have about 60-70 wins so far and about 500 kills total. I have encountered one questionable player who headshotted our whole squad with a wingman and downed us all without missing a shot. We reported him and moved on.

The US servers are NOT rampant with hackers. I play every day for 4-6 hours and that one single incident is the only time I've felt suspicious. Otherwise I have fun with my friends and enjoy winning regularly.

If the cheaters are as bad as some of you say - RECORD THEM! REPORT THEM! And then move on.

The one video posted here is just garbage, that guy in question missed so many shots and generally was not that good but because he lands one headshot with a Wingman from far away he's suddenly a hacker. The Wingman is easy to snipe with.

Provide proof, report them and move on. It's not as bad as you all make it out to be - on US servers at least.

Questionable? Suspicious? After a player: \"headshotted our whole squad with a wingman and downed us all without missing a shot\". Okay. That's very generous of you to give them the benefit of the doubt. Some might say so generous that it's almost suspicious in itself.

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@warslag wrote:

@Subcool789 wrote:
I have about 60-70 wins so far and about 500 kills total. I have encountered one questionable player who headshotted our whole squad with a wingman and downed us all without missing a shot. We reported him and moved on.

The US servers are NOT rampant with hackers. I play every day for 4-6 hours and that one single incident is the only time I've felt suspicious. Otherwise I have fun with my friends and enjoy winning regularly.

If the cheaters are as bad as some of you say - RECORD THEM! REPORT THEM! And then move on.

The one video posted here is just garbage, that guy in question missed so many shots and generally was not that good but because he lands one headshot with a Wingman from far away he's suddenly a hacker. The Wingman is easy to snipe with.

Provide proof, report them and move on. It's not as bad as you all make it out to be - on US servers at least.

Questionable? Suspicious? After a player: \"headshotted our whole squad with a wingman and downed us all without missing a shot\". Okay. That's very generous of you to give them the benefit of the doubt. Some might say so generous that it's almost suspicious in itself.



Did you read the part about how we all reported him? I can't say 100% he was hacking because it's not impossible to get headshots like that - just very hard and rare. So we obviously didn't give him the benefit of the doubt BECAUSE WE REPORTED HIM. 

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@Subcool789 

You can’t talk to these people they truly believe they are God’s hell one of the posts are saying shroud and ninja aimbot to get people to watch they just don’t believe anyone can be better than them and when you say your stats mirror the people they are talking about with twice as many headshots as kills they act like you are hiding something but it is ok I have said many times I appreciate noobs calling me a cheater because I know I am not a great player but daily cheat messages make me feel like I am

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@Subcool789 wrote:

@warslag wrote:

@Subcool789 wrote:
I have about 60-70 wins so far and about 500 kills total. I have encountered one questionable player who headshotted our whole squad with a wingman and downed us all without missing a shot. We reported him and moved on.

The US servers are NOT rampant with hackers. I play every day for 4-6 hours and that one single incident is the only time I've felt suspicious. Otherwise I have fun with my friends and enjoy winning regularly.

If the cheaters are as bad as some of you say - RECORD THEM! REPORT THEM! And then move on.

The one video posted here is just garbage, that guy in question missed so many shots and generally was not that good but because he lands one headshot with a Wingman from far away he's suddenly a hacker. The Wingman is easy to snipe with.

Provide proof, report them and move on. It's not as bad as you all make it out to be - on US servers at least.

Questionable? Suspicious? After a player: \"headshotted our whole squad with a wingman and downed us all without missing a shot\". Okay. That's very generous of you to give them the benefit of the doubt. Some might say so generous that it's almost suspicious in itself.



Did you read the part about how we all reported him? I can't say 100% he was hacking because it's not impossible to get headshots like that - just very hard and rare. So we obviously didn't give him the benefit of the doubt BECAUSE WE REPORTED HIM. 


You just gave them the benefit of the doubt again.

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@neillkorey wrote:

@Subcool789 

You can’t talk to these people they truly believe they are God’s hell one of the posts are saying shroud and ninja aimbot to get people to watch they just don’t believe anyone can be better than them and when you say your stats mirror the people they are talking about with twice as many headshots as kills they act like you are hiding something but it is ok I have said many times I appreciate noobs calling me a cheater because I know I am not a great player but daily cheat messages make me feel like I am


What is your evidence that they are lying or making it up? We know that players cheat. There is no doubt about that. Are you saying that all the recent bans have been false?

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@neillkorey wrote:

@Subcool789 

You can’t talk to these people they truly believe they are God’s hell one of the posts are saying shroud and ninja aimbot to get people to watch they just don’t believe anyone can be better than them and when you say your stats mirror the people they are talking about with twice as many headshots as kills they act like you are hiding something but it is ok I have said many times I appreciate noobs calling me a cheater because I know I am not a great player but daily cheat messages make me feel like I am


So what is this exactly then? you think that's legit human gameplay? random 180 headshot scope kill on a player in a moving vehicle? sure.

https://youtu.be/4jqv6XHOZfk?t=42

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@Shigurui-7 

What if I told you I have done something just like that a few times. 

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The aim bots are OUT OF CONTROL!!!

Just came from a game, this is what literally happened:  teammate getting shot, he's at the bottom of a large rock/cliff and I am on top, he is hiding behind another rock, I come over to provide support, the instant I am exposed and see the enemy, 100% (blue shield and helm) to dead in an INSTANT!   Literally dead in 1/10th of a second. 

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Just now I reported a cheater with video proof, and I didn't even played today. Yesterday, reported with video a cheater that has been cheating for more than a week, and I didn't even played against him. This is the shameless level of cheating in Apex Legends.

The dazzle is turning into a disillusion. Many players left Apex Legends, or stopped playing it waiting for a solution that keeps cheater away of the game.

Why Respawn released a game without proper measures against cheaters? They knew what happened to other games and their problems with cheaters.

Seriously, I don't believe that Respawn will change anything because they didn't with Titanfall 2. In that I just hope I'm wrong otherwise the game will die soon. 

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@gibbleguts 

I guess I didn’t spell there names correctly if you are asking my bad I don’t watch streamers I have these things called friends in the real world so don’t choose to spend time watching people play video games

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@warslag 

I play the game to and if 25 percent of the player base was cheating I would have been killed by a cheater at least once yes I know people cheat just not to the extent everyone in this game is claiming not to mention all videos I have seen on this forum are of legit players that are just good but I understand snowflakes can’t acknowledge someone is better than them at anything don’t worry you can still have a trophy 

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@neillkorey wrote:

@warslag 

I play the game to and if 25 percent of the player base was cheating I would have been killed by a cheater at least once yes I know people cheat just not to the extent everyone in this game is claiming not to mention all videos I have seen on this forum are of legit players that are just good but I understand snowflakes can’t acknowledge someone is better than them at anything don’t worry you can still have a trophy 


You play the game too and if 10 percent of the player base (this means that in a game 6 players may be cheaters) was cheating you would have been killed at least once. If you didn't get killed by a cheater, then your skills aren't that good to stay in game long enough to get killed by a cheater.

About the videos that someone posted in this forum, maybe you missed one that I saw where was an obvious aimbotter.

Ofc, there allways be someone like you in a forum calling others snowflakes and saying that cheaters are better then them.

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no i mean who are they, I assume streamer of games?

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@gibbleguts wrote:
@neillkoreywho is ninja and or shroud?

my son follows theese guys on YT and Twitch. not sure if im right but think Ninja is ranked nr1 in fortnite and Shroud is nr 1 in Pubg.

if you where sarcastic i apologies on my stupidity though 😉

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We saw how EA dealt with hackers in Battlefield 4, Battlefield 1 and Battlefield 5 by doing just nothing, and protect them with the policy of no name and shame and stupid temporary suspensions of the accounts. 

Hackers hacking since day 1 are still there hacking. Many recorded and interviewed by youtubers months ago are still there hacking. Met many of them myself personally in my games (EU servers). Game is full of wallhacks, aimbots, damage modifiers. Its just unplayable at the current state and me and my friends now play BF5 less and less.

In Battlefield 1 hackers were given ONE WEEK SUSPENSION instead of instant permaban of their origin accounts, because EA thought that giving them a warning, they somehow reedem themselves stopping hacking and starting to play legit. They also stopped the naming and shaming in the game chat at one point after a massive ban wave that lasted 24 minutes long in chat. At the beginning there notifications like john1 banned because of cheating, then EA decided to remove the names, and the notifications became some generic messages like \"2 people been cheating in the last 24 hrs\". Then they removed the notifications completely, to reintroduce themeven more generic than before, months and months later after huge complaints by the Battlefield community.

In Battlefield 5 the cheating situation is even worse by far. Every game you find hackers wallhacking and aimbotting you behind covers, people that one shot kills with pistols. Hackers in in-game chat make fun of the community saying there is no anticheat in Battlefield 5 and they can do whatever they want and they will never ever get banned. Most of the ones i meet says they hack since day 1 and in feb 2019 they are still there hacking.

You just have to check Battlefield Tracker to see how many hackers are there. Just check top 500+ players for KD ratios or score per minute to see. 

Left Battlefield 5 hoping Apex will be better in matter of hackers but i was wrong. In 2 out of 3 games i play i meet hackers. In a funny one i was wearing legendary armor and helmet, max shields max health, and a dude aimbotted and one shotted me with a ***** peacekeeper or whatever it is called. People jumping like crazy and aimbotting all of your team mates with single bullets even with advanced armours and helmets. People spotting you behind of covers, people pre aiming you when you-re not even visible on the map, 

This game became a joke exactly as Battlefield 5.

And EA employees, stop saying you do care of the cheating problem, because clearly you dont. 

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Just report a cheater with efective video proof. The curious thing is that he was complaining about the game, for not founding guns or bullets. Others complain about cheaters and the cheater complain about the game. 😃

Edited: After 1 hour and half, the cheater stills in game, cheating in all game rounds and complaining about aimbotters. He even says \"This game is *\". That's hilarious and also stupid to see. Just now he said \"This game is dog *\". I could put the link here but I would be acused of \"Naming and Shaming\" even when the cheating is so obvious.

Is a repetitive video live stream, just saw the same footage that saw earlier.

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I've been seeing them often and just didn't want to take the time out of my playing experience to report but it's just being absolutely ruined now and I'm going to quit the game until they make some serious changes to the game.  I love the game but this lackadaisical approach to anti-cheat is irritating and very discouraging.  Wasting upwards of 15 minutes a game just to get insta-gibbed by a hacker?  I'd rather spend that time doing something else.  

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Also, there are so many people in denial or saying we're \"blowing it out of proportion\".  I'm convinced they are hackers or hacker apologists.  I'm not going to waste my time spying on someone's gameplay to see if they are a hacker anymore, I'm just leaving the game.  The thing about hackers is that once you've come across a few you start to become skeptical to nearly every single death you have and it just ruins the experience.  I want to relax when I play, have a little fun here and there...not sit in my chair in a paranoia fueled fury wondering if I got sniped by a legit player or a hacker.

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Anyway, here is the video I took.

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[Removed-please do not post these videos here. To report a suspected cheater you can use the form here: https://www.easy.ac/en-us/support/apexlegends/contact/report/]

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