Countermeasurement to avoid cheating in first place

DaAceXD, you are starting to get suspicious.

Apex Legends have a huge cheaters problem, and soft cheating problems, yet you are making thread for exactly the opposite and explaining how the game is clean and people are just bad and blame people who are not using any sort of cheats, yet you don`t have any proof to suggest that.

I don`t see a reason to making a thread and then continue defend your case in another thread ....

Just because you don`t wanna see the problem or its a part of a problem, doesn`t mean there is no problem.

Soft cheats exist and Apex is filled with them.

This is not CS:GO with low TTK and anyone to kill you and to put it on luck or anything. Apex Legends actually require the greatest amount of skill and the game is pretty hard to learn and to get really good at it.

its not easy to track opponent and land most of your shots, to move hard and keep your recoil in check at greater distances.

Yet somehow players with new accounts that recently started, move and loot terrible, yet are beaming you like Pros from any distance.

While on close range, anything can happen and they can mastiff you, but to beam you like PRO from a medium or long distance and barely miss a shot, yeah come on.

Every new cheat(check youtube) have soft version to put on the settings and to not be blatantly obvious, and to make you think is this guy cheating or not ?

I won`t even talk about single firerate and recoil macros/scripts, because probably  more than 50% of the player base atm is using them.

Streamers are not even hiding their G-Hub software and stay open with their macro stuffs.

Let me give a concrete stuffs for example:

Few days ago was watching Hal stream and before a tournament usually Pros go and play Pubs for high kill to warm up good or just for a chill. He didn`t said it in the straight context, but it was what he thinking, that somehow, suddenly public lobby(aka normal trios) players suddenly develop high skill and lasers :D And suddenly they are almost not missing a shots and pub are way harder now  ....

He played for like an hour and couldn`t get an out of Fragment. :D Didn`t even won a single game.

Yeah suddenly low level and tier players are somehow god aimers from any distances and can use all the current weapons in game with a god aim. ;D

As far as for OP solution, it won`t work. A real solution is a TOP anti-cheating program, that detect the cheat the moment the game client is started and ban the player straight away. Same for the macro/scripts.

Anything that interfere with the game should be considered cheating and players should be banned straight away.

Until then, soon will be like CS:GO without prime(not that the Prime is not filled with cheaters tho). You are going on DM for example with 10 players, and 9 out of 10 are cheaters. :D

@djentyman Don't pay no attention to @DaAceXD he attacks anyone who actually wants a clean game for some unkown reason.  This person makes absurd assumptions that devolve any civil discourse.  I will commend you in not taking the bait to go toxic with your retorts though.

The fact is the soft bots, macro's and scripts that are undetectable are not hard to spot when spectating someone.  Especially when most of us have been playing FPS games for a lot of years.  Some way more than others but my point is those kind of posers trying to be a streamer or whatever using those kinds of cheats are the worst kind of person in gaming.  An obvious aimbotter with no shame is to be respected over the goof trying to pass off automation as skill.  I have talked to the obvious aimbotter types and they are mostly running a business boosting people and securing wins for their customers.  Don't get me wrong that guys is still a D-bag ruining the game for others but you gotta respect an entrepreneur.

 

@LordloshBang 

''I won`t even talk about single firerate and recoil macros/scripts, because probably  more than 50% of the player base atm is using them.''

Dude, 50% of the playerbase does not even know what that is.

And everything else you say is alot of words and no proof.

''its not easy to track opponent and land most of your shots, to move hard and keep your recoil in check at greater distances.''

Yes it is, That sentence alone says enough to me.

I 1 clip people all the time.

''''''''''DAceXD, you are starting to get suspicious.'''''''' !!!!!!!! RIght?

You cannot 1 clip people. without scripts and cheats!

''Yet somehow players with new accounts that recently started, move and loot terrible, yet are beaming you like Pros from any distance.

While on close range, anything can happen and they can mastiff you, but to beam you like PRO from a medium or long distance and barely miss a shot, yeah come on.''

Here another one, like there are SOO many smurfs at the moment.

If you say a low level beaming is a 100% cheater tells me something about how you detect cheaters.

So same for you :D

Get better at the game and you will see less cheaters! 🙂

''Streamers are not even hiding their G-Hub software and stay open with their macro stuffs.''

I have one thing to say to this!

lol

''As far as for OP solution, it won`t work. A real solution is a TOP anti-cheating program, that detect the cheat the moment the game client is started and ban the player straight away. Same for the macro/scripts.

Anything that interfere with the game should be considered cheating and players should be banned straight away.

Until then, soon will be like CS:GO without prime(not that the Prime is not filled with cheaters tho). You are going on DM for example with 10 players, and 9 out of 10 are cheaters. :D''

Yes!!! It realy is that easy.

I can't believe that people that create anti cheat software for a living have not tought about that.

What have they been doing last 20 years?

Just make a TOP anti cheat and ban people instantly!

Good thinking. Maybe they will do it now.

@GRiPSViGiL 

Yes that is what im doing. I don't want this game to be clean.

And going to the forums is the way to do it!

All im asking is.

I have a cheater 50% of my games is REALY EASY to proof.

I have seen NOTHING that even comes close to 50%

'The fact is the soft bots, macro's and scripts that are undetectable are not hard to spot when spectating someone''

This sentence alone you are contradicting yourself so hard.

You do know a part of respawns anti cheat program is spectating right?

Nice try goodbye!

@GRiPSViGiL 

What you are doing is the definition of being toxic.

While your advice to another person was to ignore me you go full assault.

So your a hypocrit to.

At the verry least im trolling. But im rather serious about what im saying...

3 games in a row in ranked i`m dying to a cheaters and i`m losing my time spectating them to know for sure, tho i was sure the moment they downed me.

The last guy can`t even move his mouse properly, he ADS in a 5 meter distance and shoots were like a self-directed missiles.

The game is turning to a cheating fest.

P.P. Forth game in a row i`m dying to a cheater. I`m starting a ranked game and hop one of my ally are gone on the loading screen, we are 2, and on top of that we are dying to cheaters.

This game is becoming more and more annoying with every single day.

P.P2. Fifth game in a row, this time i died and my teammate, which was Lifeline was cheating. It wasn`t a blatant aim bot, but either like an aim assist, the moment his crosshair was close to the enemy head all the shots were landing and he manage to clutch the win with 2v3, it was actually like 1v3 at one point, but he manage to grab and revive our other teammate and clutch from top 10, to a win.

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@littlxr wrote:
@GRiPSViGiLHe's a really odd guy.

I've never, ever been able to understand that behaviour. Surely we all want a better, fairer game? Why don't people like him just say:

"You know what, I don't even play on console so you guys will know better than me. I'll join you in raising awareness, bumping the thread, because IF you're all right then it'll do good to shed more light on the issue and make the game better for everyone. If you're all wrong, no harm done".

Why is that not the universal stance on cheating!?

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Why is that not the universal stance on cheating!?

That is what i have been explaining to you for the past 24 hours.

Going on the forums accusing 50% of the players of using scripts and cheats and streamers for cheating.

And in NO WAY AT ALL have i said that i support cheaters, But i do support good players that practise 16 hours a day to achieve a level of gameplay that may look impossible for someone like you. And they sure as hell don't deserve you accusing them of cheats and scrips untill its proven by someone.

The only thing you are achieving is fooling yourself  that somehow you are the best player in the game that can only lose versus cheaters and scripters.

In no way is that good for the game.

You say:

Cheaters are easy to spot 50% of the players have cheats  there is 60 people in a match so its close to 100% chance there is a cheater in every match.

Then you claim you want to make this game a better place.

I'm here on the forums saying Hey man i don't believe you, Seems easy enough to gather some proof with almost 100% chance on a cheater in every match.

Then you say: ''its not my job''.

Your a real patriot man! Thank you so much for your contribution in resolving the cheater issue.

if you want my proof:
I just recorded a full session of 4 hours without running into a single cheater, Got a little over 100 kills and 5-7 wins.

So im still confused what you are talking about.

And don't go: Im on ps4 you don't know man.

Everybody knows that the cheating issue is the biggest on the PC. And im telling you the platform with the biggest and most cheaters isn't that bad at all with video prood if you want it!

I can send you a minimal 4 hour video every day if you would like that.

And you can download whole sessions of streamers as well if you want.

But i would advise you to just play apex legends that time and get good.

You say im a sad little guy going on all cheater posts and responding.

But you are going in every single post with me against it even continuing discussions we have in other posts.

Next to that you are attacking me personaly and not my arguments, But thats typical behavior for a person losing a discussion.

Wich i understand because you have nothing to attack my arguments exept:  CHEATING IS A ISSUE MAN. YOU ARE A CHEATER

This post is also not the right place for this discussion so thats my last answer here.

If you want more replies from me get to the post i made.

Protip:

Get better at the game and there will be less cheaters.