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I don’t think so. I think nearly every gun in this game is an excuse for people to think that they are better than they are.
When you get shot by a gun and get killed, only in this community do people bawl out loud that they had better skill and only if the guns were balanced would that person with ‘less skill’ not have killed them.
You know what mod I’d like? If you complain guns do too much damage, just for you and only your account you get to be one shot killed whenever you are hit by bullets.
Sure, the player count would drop. But the game might actually be more fun before it died.
- E9ine_AC5 years agoHero+@KelRiever Skill is not something i lack in the slightest. Going on 17k games played and this is my feedback after all these games.
- 5 years ago
It didn’t get nerfed enough, you can still two tap people. I’ve tried it multiple times in the practice range and seen it still happen to some streamers in game
It needs another damage nerf so if someone has at least purple armour it’ll always take at least 3 shots to kill
- Lord_Scorpion345 years agoLegend@Bean2kay9 Def not. I've died several times with it in my hands today trying to 2 tap. I didn't look at the patch notes so I wasn't aware this was on their list. I'm actually surprised they listened to gamers on this cuz there's a ton of tother things they have ignored us on lol. I guess pros were complaining about it too.
- 5 years ago@KelRiever Shotguns are weapons that don't suffer from the usual disadvantages hip fire has. You keep full mobility while having a weapon in your hand that keeps the same accuracy, with no drawbacks whatsoever. Weapons that seemingly have decent hip fire and aren't shotguns get nerfed, like the Hemlok.
If Shotguns - just like other weapons - would suffer some kind of disadvantage when not scoped, we would solve almost all problems with "Hey, this particular shotgun is OP!"- 5 years ago
It’s not personal and tender feelings are why this conversation can’t even be had. The guns in this game need all to do more damage not less. Instead of nerfing the Mastiff, about 5 other guns minimum need to be buffed.
The whining will not end on weapons until they all do zero damage. Because until then, someone will die from something in game and bawl that it was OP and not them getting taken out by someone else better than them.
- 5 years ago@KelRiever I don't think you are understanding (or you don't want to understand) why people are complaining about the weapons when they do. And just because we are complaining about a Mastiff doesn't mean we don't want to see a buff to the weaker weapons.
And now that I think back to it, I have never heard anybody complaining about the R-301 Carbine or the VK-47 Flatline being too strong or too weak. So artificially speaking they're one of the most balanced weapons in the game. Meanwhile, people come forth... "Shotguns are overpowered" or "the Volt SMG is overpowered" or a while back the R-99 being too powerful. It all kinda adds up if you ask me. And it's strangely those types of weapons I see the most.
- hayhor5 years agoHero@KelRiever We dont want COD/warzone TTK. That, the movement and hero abilities are what make apex, apex. The last thing we need is apex to become a game of hiding.
- 5 years ago
Aside from your devotion e9 you can’t separate your feelings so I’ll just disagree with you. I think you are part of the feelings problems and that’s why you can’t let it go.
Hayhor, I kind of do, frankly. This game is at squirt gun level and people play they way. It makes Halo seem deadly. I know no one will double the damage on the guns but the whining has overtaken any actual balance or challenge.
people can’t deal with that sometimes they get killed by someone better than them, and they blame the guns. Which isn’t surprising. What’s surprising is how much Apex rolls over every time.
- hayhor5 years agoHero@KelRiever Well the majority wont. And I disagree apex has constantly rolled over making guns do less damage. Other than the mastiff which gones have they done this too? Cause guns like the sentinel they upped the damage. Others they made the recoil easier or harder depending on where they were at. Most guns I actually get why they made changes. The havoc is the only gun I do not understand.
- 5 years ago
@KelRieversounds like you should go play COD, that weapon balance appears to be more your style. The difference in this game is that the way it is balanced it gives people a fighting chance even if they are shot in the back, it adds a higher skill cap to outplaying enemies vs simply winning because you saw them first
- 5 years ago
@twitchSeriel_FPSthats the point, move smart, then you will not get shoot in the back, or you will be the one who sees the other one first, and you can still maybe survive, if you manage to land a headshot.
Higher TTK lets you also get away with bad positioning, ob bad decisions cause you just have more time.
It would be more tactical with lower TTK, so maybe they should turn this into a third person shooter, cause thats the way of a action FPS where you need 2 mags to kill someone.
Third partys would also not be as annoying as it is now, cause TTK ist lower, faster kills, more time to prepare for the next squad.Teammates would start to use their brain, or get killed in sec cause of rushing in as a brainless something
- 5 years agoI don't know what game you guys are playing but you guys act like this games TTK is pretty high. Imho this games TTK is great compared to other shooter games I played. The Mastiff nerf was needed as the game was growing stale and people even started calling it Mastiff legends cause of how much you need the Mastiff to fight other Mastiff players. I'm glad they didn't touch EVA-8 cause in my opinion this gun is a perfectly balanced shotgun which is hard to achieve.
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