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@KelRiever You do know that every game needs balancing right? Do you even play Apex? How can't you see that Mastiff was literally OP because you could take down an enemy with two shots? The only way you could counter that was to have a Mastiff for you too but guess what you don't always have since this is a BR and RNG kicks in. You can outplay an eva8 with an SMG or AR, but you couldn't do the same with a Mastiff (unless the guy using it is a complete trash player). Now this has improved and most of the times it will take 1 more shot to take down a guy with a Mastiff. And don't bring the buff all the other guns thing, what do you want? To one shot everyone easily? Giving them no time to react? You're forgetting that Apex isn't just about shooting but movement is also a major factor in the game, so you have to be good in both of these things to be a decent player.
Saying that Mastiff didn't need a nerf is just wrong and non sense, maybe you don't play the game enough to see how op that gun was.
- @NitromethaneAP The S2 ttk was alright and I definitely never complained about it which you keep on saying over and over like a broken record on repeat. The guns were nerfed because that's what the community wanted and it's at a much better place now. So ttk went from good to better. It's almost as if the game improved over the years, right?
- @BaldWraithSimp I find myself being much more selective now than I was in Season 2. Season 2 half the fun was what combo I was going to use that match. I had full confidence in a wider range of options.
- KarvaRausku4 years agoSeasoned Adventurer@BaldWraithSimp the game might have improved a bit, but the sounds sure hasn't.
@ArchAngeL.PCX There were plenty of complaints of peacekeeper, and it was the same lines as with mastiff. Shotguns simply are antifun to play against. Sure it can feel good when you 1-2 shot someone , but when you have yourself landed every single bullets and are denied your skillful play with something else than Kraber quick scope, it doesn't feel that you got out played. It just feels dirty.
Also alternator shield distruptor... For long time the "Pro" players said that it was fine, they also said that charge rifle was fine. Then after it become popular to use they started to notice that it wasn't quite fine at all.
And ofcourse they abused the living S*it out of them. @@Cross yes games need balancing but there are many tools for balancing. This game to keep has obviously gone foremost with nerfs far more than buffs and it’s gotten to the point than it’s really bad. And I do blame Respawn for rolling over. Players will always complain about what killls them.
- @NitromethaneAP Clip sizes did not decrease that much and some guns have bigger clips now. This is not the actual information I was looking for. I want real data. Not some generality so you can claim you are right.
- @ArchAngeL-PCX I am only selective in ranked. Mastiff had no counter, so I run Mastiff in ranked.
In pubs, I run R99 /Volt/Flatline/Hemlock/R301/Volt/Spitfire. That's a lot of options.
I think to make energy weapons more usable, they need to remove the hop up system from loot pool and integrate them into guns like choke. I'm starting avoiding shotguns altogether. All except Mozambique because I find this weapon to be actually fun to play with. I feel those traditional shotguns being rather 'cheaty' in my opinion. And before anyone comes and says "That's probably you get killed a lot by it!" - Yes, but also no, because I also killed a lot with the Mastiff. A damn lot. Now it's EVA-8 that get's used a lot.
I'm not picky when it comes to weapons. If I find an RE-45, I take it. If I find an Alternator, I take it. If I find a Mozambique... Hell yes I take it.
If I find an EVA-8? I take it, find the next cliff and throw it down there.
Clip size did decrease alot. And everything I said was true and contributed to having a low TTK in season 1-2, if you cant graps that aint my problem.
- E9ine_AC4 years agoHero+@Cro_Pittt Ive came to terms with he does not play as much as some do to see the huge problem those of us who put in countless games see. Its almost as if he doesnt play apex hardly at all. Maybe he is one the players who has to use mastiff to kill people cause he cant with other guns. I dunno. Why i mentioned earlier do you even play this game? Cause he has no clue what he is speaking about.
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