Dodgy servers
Want to know if people are having trouble playing the game atm, trying to play ranked here and I keep ending on bad servers that make me lag out of existence. My ping is fine, I checked if I joined w...
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@Br0kenPiece just a quick note the ping you can see in the title screen is your ping for their casual server(well most of it) it's cause devs can't be bothered to make a proper detailed server lists.
@Daze623 I suppose you mean lobby servers, not casual 🙂. The match servers are not exposed and that's a good thing, more balanced distribution of players, reduced chances of hackers attacking them, less ways for some to cheat their way up by joining high ping servers or to circumvent sbmm by going on servers that tend to be filled with more inexperienced players, etc..
Anyway, ping for lobby server is pretty useless, ping shown on performance display does not tell the whole story (network buffering is not included, ping spikes are hardly visible but can have a lasting effect).
Anyway, ping for lobby server is pretty useless, ping shown on performance display does not tell the whole story (network buffering is not included, ping spikes are hardly visible but can have a lasting effect).
- @DoYaSeeMe Lol
Trust me hackers know the servers real address. I know how to find it too but I don't know if it's allowed so I don't do it.
All those reasons can be easily fixed if devs really wanted too.
High ping? Iirc Conan exiles doesn't allow players to join servers that would give them high ping. I'm sure this same system can be implemented in Apex too.
Players targetting inexperienced players? People already do this anyway so why even use this an excuse?
I'm not asking them to show everything cause it would be pointless as not everyone knows what the data shows. What I'm asking for is to show more accurate information as I find it extremely stupid to show a certain ping when in reality it's not the ping they'll get in game.- @Daze623 Hackers can get anywhere, but any step making things more difficult to them is a good one. Anyway, the current system is fine, I don't think anyone wants to get in situations where the closest server doesn't have enough players, the reasonable ones are full and the higher ping ones deny connection. Also, I'm pretty sure the list of available match servers is sorted by ping and it's possible that, even when connecting to a more distant lobby server, to actually get a match server that's quite a bit closer in terms of delay.
Regarding lag, the biggest problem comes from instability. The spikes can ruin the experience, although the average is hardly affected by them. A system limiting ping can mess up the matchmaking but also make things worse whenever there's instability, a more aggressive version even taking players out mid game.
Thing is, I really doubt the raw ping is the whole problem. I sometimes seem to get significant input lag, which might be an effect of underperformance and/or too high/low/unstable network buffering. Also, noticed that streamers often get much a much smoother experience, even at much higher ping than I usually get (I average around 60-70ms on one PC and 30-50ms on another). Wish they'd expose more stuff on a larger performance display, although there's nothing much we can do to change anything.- @DoYaSeeMe "the current system is fine"
The fact that you think this flawed system is fine is honestly scary and is probably one of the reasons why this game is suffering through a lot of technical issues cause they have people like you defending horrible system design.
"any step making things more difficult to them is a good one. "
The only thing they're making it difficult is for normal players to gain a proper and fair match. The code needed to find out what server you're connecting to is easily available out there with just a simple google search. They didn't even bother to put it behind a paywall cause of how easy it is.
"pretty sure the list of available match servers is sorted by ping and it's possible that, even when connecting to a more distant lobby server, to actually get a match server that's quite a bit closer in terms of delay."
We can't really confirm this.Why? it's cause they don't show actual ping.
"Regarding lag, the biggest problem comes from instability. The spikes can ruin the experience, although the average is hardly affected by them. "
Please I know what causes lag spikes. What I'm talking about is this constant 150ms that causes delay that ruins my(and other players) experience. Knowing your ping is really important when it comes to fps games.
"A system limiting ping can mess up the matchmaking but also make things worse whenever there's instability, a more aggressive version even taking players out mid game."
Matchmaking is already messed up anyway. It wouldn't hurt to make it fair for people playing. And why would you add a more aggressive version? You only need to stop people that constantly go over a certain ping from joining no need to kick people out just because they had spikes.
" I really doubt the raw ping is the whole problem. "
Never said it was the whole problem but it's a big part of the problem.
"there's nothing much we can do to change anything. "
Yes there is if we stopped defending stupid system designs and actually called devs out for their laziness things will change. It worked with Caustic's incoming buff right? so why wouldn't it work for something more vital to the games overall health.
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