No reason to have this much health in this game. Either get rid of red shields or have batteries max out at healing for 100 shield. Theres no reason a batter should be able to heal for 125 hp in 5 seconds. That is ridiculous.

@reconzeroNo they exist to encourage fighting

@NewWorld998I had to give this one a lot of thought... and in the end I agree with you. I feel like this shield is there to make masters and preds feel cool.

Usually the higher end of players that have red shields are the masters and preds. Like they need an extra 25 shield to decimate all the lower level players forced into their lobbies.

@BallisticMVP"No they exist to encourage fighting"Because people line up to play a competitive shooter in order to not fight??? I know ratting is a problem in ranked because of the ranked changes, but in pubs the entire population of the game drops hot as if fragment is filled with free hookers and blow and they want their fill. Can I say "hookers and blow" on the forums? Apologies, mods, if the answer is no.At any rate, that just reads to me as if we need to encourage people to breath because if we don't then they might stop and die.

@reconzeroWell many people avoid fighting especially in ranked. I think it’s fair that the people that actively risk dieing get an advantage in their future fights. They thin out the lobby for everyone, it’s a good thing that people actively chase every fight they can. and no ratting is not just now an issue in the game it always was there just not to such an extreme. And it’s not even only about them, but also every team that sets up in a zonebuilding 2 min after drop… there should be a negative side to that playstyle, and one of the things is usually worse loot/armors

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reconzero
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@NewWorld998

I had to give this one a lot of thought... and in the end I agree with you. I feel like this shield is there to make masters and preds feel cool.
ComicBookGuy2727
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
Usually the higher end of players that have red shields are the masters and preds. Like they need an extra 25 shield to decimate all the lower level players forced into their lobbies.
BallisticMVP
2 years ago
@reconzeroNo they exist to encourage fighting
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@BallisticMVP

"No they exist to encourage fighting"

Because people line up to play a competitive shooter in order to not fight??? I know ratting is a problem in ranked because of the ranked changes, but in pubs the entire population of the game drops hot as if fragment is filled with free hookers and blow and they want their fill. Can I say "hookers and blow" on the forums? Apologies, mods, if the answer is no.

At any rate, that just reads to me as if we need to encourage people to breath because if we don't then they might stop and die.
BallisticMVP
2 years ago
@reconzeroWell many people avoid fighting especially in ranked. I think it’s fair that the people that actively risk dieing get an advantage in their future fights. They thin out the lobby for everyone, it’s a good thing that people actively chase every fight they can.

and no ratting is not just now an issue in the game it always was there just not to such an extreme. And it’s not even only about them, but also every team that sets up in a zonebuilding 2 min after drop… there should be a negative side to that playstyle, and one of the things is usually worse loot/armors
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@BallisticMVP

"there should be a negative side to that playstyle"

I feel like every play style has its own share of positives and negatives, and that it was sort of a self-leveling issue. Let people play the game whichever way they personally see fit. Does the game really need to encourage or discourage any particular form of play? Why is one way better or worse than the other... except to the short-of-attention-span player? A player for whom I have more than a few choice words....
Vdstrk
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@NewWorld998No. Red Shields are fine as it is.
It takes some going to get one.
For one, you can achieve one through damage. So essentially you could level up a white shield all the way to red.
You can get one by defeating an enemy who might have leveled one up through either damage or by leveling one up through the replicator. Either way, I think it is a good tool to have while approaching end match.
I believe there are other "things" that could make the game much better if removed, but red shields are not one of them.
hayhor
Hero
2 years ago
@NewWorld998 Apex has always been about high ttk. A red shield is a reward for either doing good damage or killing someone with one.
KelRiever
2 years ago
I agree that the red shield idea is trash.
First of all, it already takes too long to kill people. Second, now people mostly ignore gold shields, which is kinda dumb. It's a YOLO shield, and frankly, I think the whole game, with no weapon that could kill you in one hit with such a shield, or even a blue helmet on your head, not even a fire every few hours Kraber, just makes the game super awful.
However, you know what? ALL YOU NEED is a cheat program to get you by. I see it all the time now. And then your red shield won't save you.
Cheatware for the win, Respawn. It's awesome that you ask $25 for a skin :P
BallisticMVP
2 years ago
@reconzeroOne way is better than the other for the whole lobby, objectively just how it is, sitting in a house and locking it down doesn’t do anything good for the lobby while actively chasing fights benefits everyone. Even the ones sitting in the house

And yes you need to encourage people to fight because they risk getting thirdpartied or lose lp while fighting before top 10… you really wanna sit with 19-20 squads in the last circle ?