5 years ago

Is Ping actually factored into the matchmaking system?

So yeah as above in the title. Getting a little fed up of being shot through cover lol. I've developed a weird tick where I count to 5 everytime i step into cover during a gunfight...and i had one ...

discussion

xMaxrayx

5 years ago

@MandatoryIDtag U got shot because u r still not in cover in end client of high ping player.

MandatoryIDtag
5 years ago
@xMaxrayx I know, thats what the threads about lol. 😛
- xMaxrayx
  5 years ago
  @MandatoryIDtag
  U was in that's open spot so it's fair u got same of shots .
  And u hav first peek advantage.(even he can't see u first).
MandatoryIDtag
5 years ago
@xMaxrayx You think its fair the a player can shoot another player 3 seconds after that player has in reality left their line of sight because they have higher ping?
Yeah thats ridiculous lol, they're essentially just shooting at a ghost.
- xMaxrayx
  5 years ago
  @MandatoryIDtag ppl hav different opinion about fairness.
  I will assume u mean 3 sec as literary meaning, because 3 s = 3000 ms.
  y I feel it's fear because you was there and other player aim at ur hitbox in his client end.
  and u already hav advantage peeking so u can shot at him first why r u complaining to much?
  wrost thing is the shot confusing u.
  - MandatoryIDtag
    5 years ago
    @xMaxrayx I'm complaining because it's bs.
    Like i said in the OP I'd rather be amongst players of a similar ping then there is no advantage here or there that way.
    It's pretty simple concept to grasp lol. I want my matches as close to real-time as possible.
    This game has the worst experience for this compared to many others.
    Your "peak" advantage is literally irrelevant in a squad fight, its based purely on a 1v1 scenario which is extremely rare in apex.
    If this was solo's the would be another story entirely, however it isn't so this issue is pretty impactful on gameplay.
- xMaxrayx
  5 years ago
  @MandatoryIDtag and ping will be part of internet no mater what, because of how physic work.
  there a lot of of stuff reduce ur ping some of hem u control it some not.
  1-ur computer form cpu,gpu,and ur mouse
  2-internt line (vdsl hav more data corrupted than dsl and fiper)
  3-how ur isp hold ur data (some of hem hav bad equipment so u end up with bottleneck )
  4- how ur isp routing to ur game sever
  5-game server
  6- net code
- DoYaSeeMe
  5 years ago
  @MandatoryIDtag That's not fair, but a lag spike or some prediction error causing a rollback of the simulation for you.
  
  Question: What's more annoying when there's a lag spike?
  1. Getting shot behind cover.
  2. Getting thrown out of the game suddenly.
  3. Shooting an entire mag and have only 10% of the shots register.
  
  Note: 1 is favoring the first / peeker/ lower ping shooter, 2 is capping the maximum ping allowed and 3 is some generous lag compensation or a less authoritative server.
  - MandatoryIDtag
    5 years ago
    @DoYaSeeMe Well we're already experiencing 2 and 3, and one is clearly occurring for many others judging by what I've seen in trio's.
    So with all 3 of these non preferred scenarios happening for somebody in basically every game, on a much greater magnitude than other similar titles.....I think its fair to expect some kind of change.
    We're consistently told that issues are being worked on or have been resolved only for them to reappear considerably worse.
    Yes I'm aware there are limitations...however other titles seem to navigate around them much more efficiently.