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I really dont get this whole a game should reward people. Anyone who grew up playing atari and original nes will understand.
- OldTreeCreeper6 years agoHero+
@hayhor yes lol, or the pride of being the one to stand at the arcade machine for the complete hour of lunchtime at school, playing the same game for 10p 😃
@JonStriker126 bp done, quest done, level 493 done.
What I focus on additionally each season is to improve on my last seasons statistics, moreso at this end of the season. Today for example I surpassed the number of wins I had last season. Kills is up, game kill is up, damage is up, etc. I also do a bit more ranked play too. It's more personal goal rewards/satisfaction for me now.
- 6 years ago
@hayhor
While I get what you're saying, I would argue that games for a very long time have had some sort of "reward" or "goal". Maybe it's beating a story mission, finding collectibles, beating a boss, crafting weapons and armor, something. Even something like Breath of the Wild, while not very linear has both small and large goals. A small goal might be to get certain equipment, a large goal is to beat Ganon.
Honestly, all my life from even the NES days to now, I almost always pick up a game with a goal in mind or a reward I'm shooting for. It could be trying to get a certain achievement, or beat a level, or get a certain collectible, or what have you.
The problem I feel with (non story driven) FPS games, like Apex and even most of OW, is when it's just "Drop in a match, try to kill everyone/capture a point, and try not to die", it can get very repetitive, in a bad way, on its own. It lacks... Substance, for me.
to try and give you a better idea, this is how I was playing Apex before I finished my battle pass:
-Log on
-Look at Daily Challenges
-try to complete said challenges
-Look at weekly challenges
-try and do the same
-eventually, when I'm satisfied with the amount that I've done for the day, I turn the game off
-Next day (usually), rinse and repeat
Now, without the pass, without the quests, and with nothing else to experience (such as an LTM), I just don't feel a drive to keep playing. The only thing I have to play for is Packs still, But that will eventually run out, as it has for many people.
I just don't find the repetition of "drop in, try not to die, try to kill everyone" with no greater goal all that fun. Just playing for that alone, gets boring for me after a while. And I know I'm not the only person who feels that way.
You might not agree with me or feel that way, and that's fine. But, it doesn't change the fact that, unless we get an LTM or something, before season 6, I probably won't play the game, at all until then. That's just the sad reality for myself and players with my mentality *shrug*- 6 years ago
Uh, it's been said but play the game for fun?
ONCE UPON A TIME, video games didn't have rewards. People played them. And just liked them because they were fun. And they even didn't become more fun just because incentives were added.
THE END.
- 6 years ago
There will always be those who want to get everything at once, and those who rarely play because of work or study.
Adequate creators understand this and make conditions for both.
For example, now I have 1185 metals, I passed the battle pass and got level 500, and I just can't get 15 metals anywhere to buy a new skin.
As a solution, you can issue 1 box of loot for every tenth level (120,130,140 ...) of the battle pass. Thus, you can keep regular players online, the creators are also interested in this, and we do not violate the rights of those who rarely play. Maybe it's just greed ?!
Now I play gta online until season 6. Because there is nothing to do in the game. - hayhor6 years agoHero@JonStriker126 I understand where you are coming from and respect that. My mentality is just different. For me old games were fun to play through many times even though you had beaten them. I still play the old Punch Out and Tecmo Super Bowl from time to time!😂
I start up Apex almost every day just wanting some fun, which I get pretty much every time. I complete the battle pass each season without even trying. I do not even look at the weekly challenges.
If you are starting up and feel like it is for nothing I'd take a break. Games now try to get people to play every day as addiction and if you are doing something over and over that leaves you in a bad mood that is addiction. Fifa had become this for me. I felt I had to play to get rewards to keep improving my team and was doing so without having fun. I'd be angry after an hour of it. I've stopped and it has been the best thing I could have done.- 6 years ago
@hayhor wrote:
@JonStriker126I understand where you are coming from and respect that. My mentality is just different. For me old games were fun to play through many times even though you had beaten them. I still play the old Punch Out and Tecmo Super Bowl from time to time!😂
I start up Apex almost every day just wanting some fun, which I get pretty much every time. I complete the battle pass each season without even trying. I do not even look at the weekly challenges.
If you are starting up and feel like it is for nothing I'd take a break. Games now try to get people to play every day as addiction and if you are doing something over and over that leaves you in a bad mood that is addiction. Fifa had become this for me. I felt I had to play to get rewards to keep improving my team and was doing so without having fun. I'd be angry after an hour of it. I've stopped and it has been the best thing I could have done.Yeah.
The funny thing is, yesterday, after all of us were talking about this, I did decide to pop on for a little bit. Well, I played two games and they were absolute garbage. And, at the end of the second one, I end up finishing the play two games daily challenge and end up even finishing a weekly battle pass challenge without even realizing it. Well, under normal circumstances (before finishing the battle pass), in the moment I would have been like:
"Those matches sucked, but hey, I got a BP level/reward and some XP out of it. So, It wasn't all bad."
But, without that, I just felt frustrated and turned the game right off after.
Like it or not, I feel having something larger to play for (BP levels, the rewards during Lost Treasure, etc) helps make those matches not feel so bad. because before, I felt I could walk away from them at least feeling I accomplished something. Yesterday, I walked away feeling all I got for my efforts, was frustration. And that's not how I want to feel. But, sadly, I think that is how I'm going to feel anytime I pick the game up from now until season 6 starts. because if I get a string of matches like that again, and I feel like I'm not working toward anything, it's just going to make me mad.
So, I don't know, man. It just is what it is, I guess.
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