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@EA_Darko wrote:Have to say @LtHitlis that I do think that if mouse and keyboard is brought into a game then I like to see all m+k players playing against each other. I have a gaming PC and the various consoles and for Apex Legends I am playing on both PC and PS4 and enjoying it on both but my skill level on PC is far higher than on console thanks to the tools I can use.
Darko
I understand what your saying. But do not agree completely. Do we seperate servers for people who use high end surround sound headphones like Turtlebeach? They have an advantage over people who use just their TV speakers. Do we seperate servers for players using Elite controllers or Scuf controllers? Those controllers have an advantage over standard controllers. Do we seperate servers for those playing on an Xbox One X with a 4K tv or monitor with a faster refresh time vs someone playing on an Original Xbox One on a 720P TV? Same for the PS4 Pro vs the standard PS4. Do we seperate servers for those using an external SSD drive vs those using the internal drive? All these mentioned devices give the user an advantage over one who chooses not to use them. So we continue to coddle those who chose a less accurate input device then one that makes the game more fun to play for others.
And let’s be honest, we are already playing against Keyboard and Mouse users on a regular basis via products like the XIM Apex or Keymander. Fortnite already attempted to block those using those products by forcing them against cross platform PC players. XIM had a work around firmware upgrade out within 48 hours to prevent that from happening. So if you truly want to balance the playing field just make input options a choice. Because even if you choose to seperate servers the controller players will still be playing against people using XIM’s and other controller emulators. So that’s not a fix either.
As I’ve said before, I definitely enjoy using K/M over a controller, but I would NEVER play a cross platform game against PC players. Not because of any input advantage or skill advantage. But simply because PC players are plagued with hacks and cheats ranging from aimbots, wall hacks, god mode, just to mention a few. Just did a google search for “Apex Legend PC hacks and cheats” and the list filled the screen immediately. No thanks on playing with those guys! That’s the whole reason I came to console once both Sony and Microsoft announced that keyboard and mouse were both going to include input options on their console for game designers to use.
Separate servers for m/k would work but only for the games that have big enough populations to support the split. It would also cause issues when you start factoring in things like ranked/casual modes. Imagine PUBG with solo/duos/teams, then first person or third person, then also controller or m/k? It’s too much.
I say, save m/k for only single player, coop, and other non competitive games.
- 7 years ago
This conversation is getting old just allow mouse and keyboards already
honestly I am a person that prefers to play from a couch with surround sound that being said I have two different xbox one x’s one in a living room hooked up to a 75” 4K tv top of the line tv and surround sound 7.2 then another one in a spare bedroom hooked up to a top of the line 32” monitor with Astro a50 and honestly my kd in every game is 100 percent better when I play on the monitor compared to the living room tv but I have way more fun on the living room tv
moral of the story is there are to many advantages already on xbox to consider it competitive so this conversation has no merit the only reason you hear it in every game is because the try hards are all already playing on monitors with awesome headsets but get butthurt cause they suck with mouse and keyboards so they don’t want them to be allowed
p.s. I only play on monitor when wife takes over living room tv
- 7 years ago
Why would your kd be 100% better on the computer than on the xbox if you're using a m+k on both?
The point of any game is to get rid of any advantages, but I know certain people are still going to use xim on the xbox anyway.
Fps/sound are the only controlled differences up to the player, where a better player can outplay another.
- 7 years ago
It's a controller you to control the game with it.
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