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@l_mRGogonot sure what are you talking about here - Arenas or BR.
If Arenas... well I hope you did not waste 1500 h in that mode so quickly as it is totally pointless and broken in my opinion, stopped playing it after a couple of first tries and I agree SBMM seems to be going wild there.
As for BR... the situation is much better there in my opinion.
Diamond from my experience is a bit harder than usual because:
a) there seem to be many premade squads
b) as I heard since a change in season 7 or 8 or 9 (when predators and masters were allowed in diamond lobbies to lower their waiting time) SBMM is favoring them instead of diamond players
c) there are a lot of hackers - today again played 4 games in EU servers, got one team that from ~50-100m low-ground deleted my teammate, when I tried to buy him time to heal literally destroyed myself in 4 shots from two different people all in my head...needless to say how the fight ended. After that, a 42 level Wraith was kill leader and destroyed my pre-made squad.
When I get situations like this I really lose motivation to try given just recently I placed 4th in the game with 2+2 in a lobby with #13 Predator with a set squad (had two current masters on my team but they did not carry me much) - quite a turnaround to get over.
And yes SBMM kinda seem to work in BR because I got these two masters randomly assigned to my team, they did not know eachother either and before that I lost like 4 games in a row badly. Some would maybe say that this the way SBMM keeps me playing yet lobby I got into with the mentioned #13 Pred was not easy, we were just executing really well our plan.
- l_mRGogo_l4 years agoSeasoned Hotshot
@EREGDS
I've been playing since the 4th season. Arena has been there for the last 2 seasons. arena is just a part of 1500+ hours. However, the SBMM system is the same everywhere (Arena or BR).
I'm talking mostly about the arena. I often encounter similar situations when playing BR.- 4 years ago
@l_mRGogo Sounds like they try to balance out the teams by matching weaker players with stronger ones. The goal being to keep all games competitive and keep bad players interested by giving them the occasional win.
Definitely frustrating if true but how would you prefer it to work? I'd prefer to make it random so that skill and performance aren't taken into consideration but that may not be for the best.
- l_mRGogo_l4 years agoSeasoned Hotshot
There are actually many solutions. I think if I am diamond rank so should my teammates and enemies
It's just frustrating when my teammates are so bad when the opposing team has players of my rank.
Sometimes even toxic players come. (It doesn't move, the base stops. It shoots left and right.) The reporting system is completely garbage, I'm reporting it because my teammate is toxic, the next time I entered the arena, the same teammate came.
I deal damage between 3k or 4k on average. It has become commonplace for my teammates to hit between 300 and 500. This is very frustrating because when my enemies are at my level.Everyone except EA can think about it, EA just worried about money.
What is your thought ? how should it be ?
- 4 years ago@l_mRGogo Personally in BR the only thing I am missing is a ban list, so I don't get constantly matched with players I have played before and with very bad results - offensive, lack of skill, rage quitting, etc.
Temp solution - in season 11 I have been playing only with set teams from Discord but even there I start to run out of people :D
Otherwise, I can't complain in terms of BR.
Arenas...f them, Apex would be better off creating FFA 1 vs 59 or something like that.- l_mRGogo_l4 years agoSeasoned Hotshot
SBMM works the same system on the BR side and the Arena side.
Why is there a ranking system? Why do my teammates get Gold or Silver when I reach Diamon rank?- SBMM does not work by rank.
- SBMM does not work by level.
- SBMM does not work by played time.
- SBMM does not work according to the K/D ratio.
- SBMM doesn't run by overall performance either.
- SBMM does not work either by Average ping time or by region.
SBMM exists purely to keep players in the game and make money. You can join a team with a very nice skin or frame. Or, if you are constantly winning, it may immediately give you teammates that you cannot win. If the SBMM system wants you to win, it may give some to a decent (your level) team.
SBMM, I think, works on luck just like heirloom. (Heirloom 500 does not work in the package, this is a complete lie. There are tickets I created for EA.)
In short, SBMM does not work.
How do you think SBMM should be? what do you think about it? (Not just for BR. What is your opinion for both)
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