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Re: Empty lobbies ? chinese bot and hacker only in game ? please some 1 help

Looks like respawn is blacklisting spammers and cheaters.  Cheaters include using hacks or piggy backing to get higher level or rank.

Either EA has no idea about it or they’ve been told not to inform the public at this time.

My buddy said respawn was doing this in Titanfall 2.

Either way, here is the link my buddy sent me on what respawn is adding to apex.

https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/07/14/apex-legends-cheaters-matchmaking/

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  • Nrdrage's avatar
    Nrdrage
    7 years ago
    @chicagoFPS youd think if its a new system they are implementing they would have a support team on it for issues like this. Or at least work on a fix for it.
  • Like I said, either EA has no idea or they’ve been instructed not to inform the public at this time. 

  • "Investigating how people party up for matches. Even if you are not specifically using a cheat, partying up with cheaters is still cheating."
    Clearly a lot of innocent people has been hit by this including me. Can we please get a response in this thread by someone from EA or Respawn? 

  • PhazurR's avatar
    PhazurR
    7 years ago

    Hey guys :eahigh_file:

    I read that dev-blog too and now I finally understand what's going on. So the system that they currently have in place is very flawed and could potentially screw over an insane amount of innocent players. Before explaining my case and how I got screwed, I want to distance myself from people who actually queue up with cheaters to reach a higher rank.

    This was my story when I first encountered the problem: ‘’The weirdest thing just happened to me. I accepted a random friend request as I was thinking that I probably met the guy before. I do this occasionally because I'm always looking for people to play with. I'm always willing to meet new players. We started chatting and he seemed like a nice guy. We decided to go and play some games. This is where the shady stuff happens. We were queuing but the game wouldn't find any players. No matter what we tried it didn't put is in a match until eventually it threw us in a match with only one other squad. I was confused and I told the other guys that where was only one other squad. They were like ''oh well that's a server issue that has happened to me before''. I didn't think much of it, we finished the match and we tried another one. Again we were put against only one other squad. I started looking on reddit and twitter to see if there might be any server issues, but there weren't any issues. Right before I met these guys I was playing for hours and hours without any of these issues, so I quickly figured it must have had something to do with them. Then I asked the guys if they were cheating or doing something to the game that might cause the thing that was happening. He replied; ''it's probably me, I think I have an issue on my end'' (he said in broken English). So he quickly went offline and I haven't seen him since. The way he acted seemed like very guilty behaviour in my opinion. Now everytime I try to play I can't get into matches anymore.’’

    Even with all this new knowledge I know that I’m unrightfully banned because the first match that I encountered this cheater I was unfamiliar with the fact that he was cheating. I also never won any ranked matches with this guy to piggy-back to a higher rank, you can check this in the logs. So, as players can’t see if someone’s cheating before actually playing with them, it’s not smart to ban players for queuing up for the first time with certain people. Because this would mean that cheaters could just go around adding people and screwing everyone over by going in their party and queueing up.

    So in my case I got caught for queuing up with a guy that apparently is a cheater, when queuing for the first match I instantly got put into the ''cheater-matchmaking''. Not once have I played on a normal server with this guy.

    EA should only ban people who are deliberately queuing up with obvious cheaters and whom are gaining rank points/wins ect. from these matches. The system that is currently in place catches innocent people by punishing them for meeting strangers. There's no way to delete and avoid a cheater after seeing he cheated for one match because you're already being punished beforehand.

  • I’m sure the blacklisting was manually done and was done so after careful evaluation.

  • @PhazurR +1 This. Did I deliberately queue up with a cheater? No. I only played with randoms to find a 3rd guy to our roster and climb the ladder.

    Also, let's say person X is cheating and a high skilled player, so it's less obvious to spot. Person Y likes what he is seeing and invites him when the game is over, they play and suddenly bang, lobby with chinese cheaters..? Like Razium mentioned, it's currently very flawed and a lot of innocent people, like us in this thread are getting hit and it's frustrated. Some of us are limited on gaming time and the longer it's taking, the more impossible for us is it to hit max level on the battle pass that we paid for.

    This is not a way to implement a new feature and honestly, please communicate with us
  • PhazurR's avatar
    PhazurR
    7 years ago

    @MF-FruitPunchG 

    The thing I wrote was just feedback for @EA_David 

    I suggest you appeal your ban in a support ticket so they can check it. Because such issues are handled on case-to-case basis. They will have to look up who's rightfully banned and who's innocent.

  • br4veN8's avatar
    br4veN8
    7 years ago

    I also have the same issue. Glad we are not alone. Posted this a few days ago: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/Matchmaking-to-chinese-servers-only-no-matter-which-server-i-m/m-p/8019015/highlight/false#M13315

    I work in the video game industry and the only team that can help is their backend engineers, from experience. They need to trace connection logs and see what happens for us to be rerouted to chinese servers on these specific accounts, when in fact we are logging onto american ones.

  • Any response would be nice at this point. 

    It can be any of the following;

    -we can’t help you now

    -we can’t help you forever

  • Nrdrage's avatar
    Nrdrage
    7 years ago
    @chicagoFPS I Got a response from @EA_David - It was him telling me why he removed one of my posts. So they are watching but not responding for some reason.. its cool. Im wasting a ton of time ranking up an account that has none of my skins or battlepasses or anything else. At this point I wouldn't mind a refund or transfer of my items and achievements.. but apparently that't not doable. They can transfer from one account to another but it will delete "saved progress" from the transferred account. Now why tf would I want to do that... how is that a suggestion.
  • @Nrdrage 

    They are not allowed to discuss soft/shadowbans with us. They are told not to share any information for the time being. And that's exactly why posting in this topic isn't going to help anyone. Just contact their ToS team privately, and if you did nothing wrong, hope for the best

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