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hayhor
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5 years ago

Re: I have tested among Warzone, Fortnite and Apex, Apex got trash servers

@WreckingVi I play apex everyday. I rarely have connection issues. I even played on SA servers the other day with 165 ping and had no issues.

I play Warzone once a week for a few hours with friends. I have one who is in SA and he gets kicked multiple times a session. Then I had this brilliant game- https://youtu.be/Rah6u5CuXZ8

Note that what happened in that video has happened to me multiple times. Then you throw in what Dreamstare said about guns being hidden behind a paywall and it is a joke people think that game is good for competitive. The only reasons it is more popular is because it has the cod name attached and because you can hide and kill entire teams because the TTK is so low. The skill floor is quite low in this respect.

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  • BlinkxzAi's avatar
    BlinkxzAi
    5 years ago
    @hayhor Apex skill gap has been significantly decreased on apex its wayyy easier to win a game on apex than on war zone.

    only thing i like on apex is its movement besides that it has nothing on warzone

    Console version of Apex is literally soft aimbot 60% aim assist?

    And its not because of the cod franchise name it’s simply because everyone is on the same playing field, same gear , can choose your own load out, a dev team who listens to their community.

    Im done arguing

    Google the facts on which game is competitive more.

    Heck apex devs don’t even come here so whats the point of a forum for their game??
  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    5 years ago
    @BlinkxzAi Everyone is not on the same level playing field on warzone. I dont have access to every gun or attachment. On apex I do. And the weapon balance is pretty good. Hemlock is a bit strong right now but a nerf is coming.

    And I've won enough quads warzone matches to know it's pure luck on that game. Apex is easier to win because there are way less people and you can escape fights. Warzone you round a corner and get melted by someone hiding. But guess what you automatically get a 2nd chance or your teammates get get you back by buying you or doing a contract. I've brought teammates back 3 or 4 times some matches. That doesnt happen in apex.
  • Lord_Scorpion34's avatar
    Lord_Scorpion34
    Legend
    5 years ago

    It's def the servers on my end. I've played in other countries where I have 200+ ping & a few months ago there were no issues. Past few days I can play on a server with 60ish ping & I'm getting little glitches here & there messinng up my shots. If I try playing in another country now it's even worse. I'm almost curious how it would run if I was wired. But I have a feeling I'd still have issues.

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    5 years ago
    @Lord_Scorpion34 I assume you are seeing packet loss? I had a few days of that like 4 or 5 weeks ago. I never did figure out why. I'm wired. I'd never play a game like this wireless myself.
  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
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    5 years ago
    @Lord_Scorpion34 That is really weird. I'm taking in game in the performance display too, not the server picking screen.
  • BlinkxzAi's avatar
    BlinkxzAi
    5 years ago
    @WreckingVi The servers are trash and feel laggy because the game sometimes puts you into another server.

    My original server ping is 19/20 but in game it shoots up to 50/60


    No wonder i get random rubber banding some games
  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
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    5 years ago
    @BlinkxzAi I dont think the rubber banding is ping related. It seems like when it happens it is the whole lobby in that particular game. I've had it when on 24 ping and when on 140 ping. I've also played perfectly fine for hundreds of hours on high ping.
  • GRiPSViGiL's avatar
    GRiPSViGiL
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago
    @Lord_Scorpion34 Fact is games doesn't eat up enough bandwidth that there will be problems even over wifi in your home. About the only thing that will cause issues in the home is buffer bloat. If you have newish networking hardware and prioritize gaming traffic then you should be fine. After that it comes down to your ISP routing to the game servers.
    You ISP usually hands off to backbone carriers who then route you to the local carriers on the other side, if any, then to the game server infrastructure.

    In theory there is a lot to go wrong and it is almost impossible for to get it looked at as an ISP customer. Backbone carriers are often run on skeleton crews and the 3 plus different companies involved in TSing these issues properly is tough to coordinate. I have been through it professionally as a Datacenter Engineer and as an ISP customer at home.

    In any case if you open that can of worms you are in for a very time consuming frustrating time.
  • Lord_Scorpion34's avatar
    Lord_Scorpion34
    Legend
    5 years ago
    @hayhor How do I look at my performance in game. All I have to go on is the red connection icons that pop up during the "glitches".
  • E9ine_AC's avatar
    E9ine_AC
    Hero+
    5 years ago
    @Lord_Scorpion34 In your gameplay options in the settings will have a performance UI placement that will show the stats. From ms latency and more.
  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    5 years ago

    @Lord_Scorpion34Yeah what E9 said. Go to options and find performance display. Turn it on and it will give actual numbers instead of the icons. I can almost bet you'll notice packet loss counting up with the speed up stuff happens.

  • KelRiever's avatar
    KelRiever
    5 years ago

    Yes, it's well established that Respawn had comparitively awful servers.

    One thing Respawn at least does is let you know whether the problem is on your end or theirs.  You don't have to wonder, or if you are wondering, look up what the red symbols mean when they appear as they appear when you lag out.  

    So much rubber-banding tho.  I can only think this is what you get when EA min maxes their server loads with some idiot made agenda for cost versus money raking.  Battle Royal games mostly suffer from this incest level intelligence, you don't notice it, however, in the top tier game of Fortnite because they are so flush with cash they don't even care to just take on as many servers as they need.  Warzone is just well run, and it always has been, so that's another exception rather than the rule.

    Apex isn't as bad as a dead game either. But I think 'Competitive' gaming is just marketing for suckers.  All games and game modes of pvp are competitive, but there's supposed to be some 'special' mode where you take the game 'more seriously' and that's the way of every commercial video game product released now adays.

    Pure bunk.

    If you want real competition mode, you get on a pro-circuit.  And otherwise, you put up with dog trash servers for most games.  Or you just go play Fortnite and Warzone.  Truthfully, for connectivity, if that is your biggest concern they are way better, and probably always will be.  But Apex does have certain things going for it.  just not servers.

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    5 years ago
    @KelRiever I have as many connection issues in one 3 hour session of warzone than I do in 20 hours of apex. And this is with playing apex on another continents servers for half that time whereas warzone is local.
  • KelRiever's avatar
    KelRiever
    5 years ago

    @hayhor  Well, you know, everybody's situation is different too.  TBH I won't defend Warzone too much, but I also want to say they punch over their weight as a game.  And, I think it's pretty clear from volume of complaints that Apex has bad servers.  Also, again, Apex does give you a good idea of when it is them, and when it is you.  Warzone doesn't.

    Obviously, with all its warts, I'm still playing Apex as my game of choice.  I think Fortnite is okay, and does many, many things correctly. I approve of Warzone.  But I play Apex, even though it has terrible servers and even though I will leave games without shame (YOU KNOW ME HAYHOR, YOU KNOW ME!) :D

  • E9ine_AC's avatar
    E9ine_AC
    Hero+
    5 years ago
    @KelRiever You also are comparing a company of 15+ years of building FPS shooters with more then triple the work staff apex has. Comparing games to another just wont do any good. All operate and do things differently. All have xxx amount staff while the other has xx amount. But comparing a game company who has a lot more staff and well over 15 years in experience in this field is not a good way to go about things imo.

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