Re: If you want apex to stay alive you need to do these things.

I have to agree with Recon on this one. 

You say this - " It's a mental thing to try something completely different on an account you don't care about the stats."

When you make this comment, you are doing so in a manner which seems to speak for everyone. Even if the above statement is the very reason you make alt accounts - that is one thing. If you think that everyone and their grandma that makes alt accounts, including the hundreds if not thousands that have upwards to 30 accounts of more for Apex is doing so for the same reasons as you state you are - you are sadly, sadly mistaken. (You are giving to much credit to humanity on this front)

When a new player or a low level player is going up against top players on alt accounts... everyone says the same thing - "Well its ok, because the MM will place that smurf account at its proper level (as you so put it - "sooner than later.") - As if to say to that new player going up against a top player getting absolutely smashed to oblivion, that is ok, just take it cause the guy will be in the proper lobbies eventually. Just that is absolute garbage in my opinion. Now... with how many alt accounts exist in Apex, that poor noob, will face that over and over and over again as a new player trying to learn, expecting to be matched against similar skilled combatants as half the player base if not more most likely are using alt accounts. Is that fair to the new player to have to endure that constantly so players can have fun? Do the grind? To try something different? For content or clout. To practice trick plays and so on? 

When you say its not nearly as a big deal... you are speaking for your point of view... not the player base. And maybe to you its ok, but if you have been playing Apex for years maybe you dont understand. The game was a different beast back then. As a new player now, Apex is really hard to learn, even more so with the constant alt accounts you will be facing off against consistently as they stomp you as they are passing through. I would guess many would disagree with your statement - "its not nearly as a big deal." - This is subjective. 

If their was only one player in a blue moon doing this, it wouldn't be so bad once in awhile to have happen to you... but with the amount of players making and using them, it happens constantly, far too often... that is when it becomes a problem and destroys the ability for the MM to do its job properly. 

You also stated - "The games I get in Bronze through Silver are typically way harder than Gold or Plat matches."

I hope you realize, a huge reason why this is... the over abundance of alt accounts. Most of the bronze and silver and gold lobbies are players much better than that on new accounts plundering and pillaging their way through the ranks. Many once the plundering slows down and the matches become their equal - new account and the cycle begins again. I'm not saying that is the only reason why ranked at lower levels is as bad as it is at the moment and has been for many seasons now - but it certainly contributes to the problem and causes terrible gaming experiences for the majority. But heh, as long as we all fight for a way to make gaming fun for ourselves, and don't care what anyone thinks... than all good I guess. Its just too bad that fun you are chasing after has to come at the expense of many many others. 

I have to agree with Recon on this one. 

When you say - "part of the appeal of F2P games is making as many accounts as you would like. There's a lot of reasons do so, and none of which are because of cheating. It's a mental thing to try something completely different on an account you don't care about the stats."

It sounds like you are speaking for everyone with this above statement. To even suggest that NONE of which are because of cheating... reallly? Maybe you yourself don't smurf for those reasons but to suggest nobody does is just ignorance. The majority do it specifically to have easier matches - yes, which means being pitted against players nowhere near your skill level to beat the hell out of them to feel good about oneself. 

You can't understand why some are so against it? If you are able to place yourself in the shoes of others you might be enlightened to the perceptions of others in regards to smurfing and alt accounts - despite that Respawn has ok'd it for the grind. 

Apex is a entirely different beast now than it was back in the day...especially for a noob player. It is extremely harder now for a new player to enjoy as alt accounts have added to the crippling of the MM and abolished in a sense, being matched against similar skilled combatants. 

Lots of players say, smurfing shouldn't be a big deal because much like you said - " There's ranked and SBMM, which regardless of your level, will then put you against similarly skilled opponents sooner than later." 

Meaning, some say, its fine because you will only meet that person once and after a bunch of matches demolishing new players and low level players, these individuals will be placed appropriately - eventually. 

However, with the amount of smurf accounts, that poor noob or low level player is going to face them over and over and over again getting plundered and pillaged to know end. Is that fair for someone placing their time and money into a game they believe is fair because the game is advertised as playing against similar skilled opponents?  

Unfortunately there are most likely more alt accounts at this moment in a 6 year old game than not. A massive amount of the player base (especially long time Apex players) have more than 3 accounts. There are hundreds if not thousands that have multiple accounts. I know of many that have over 30 accounts for Apex. Alot of players when they hit the top of their skill gap and are facing their equal don't have fun anymore, hence why they make a new account and start all over again. 

So for the low skilled players, new players and average skilled even, facing one person that has been playing the game for years on a fresh account is extremely frustrating as while they are making their way through the grind for the ____ time - you are cannon fodder, and decimated in mili-seconds by someone you can tell, is light years above your skill level. Is that fair? 

You make comments such as "its not a big deal." - Maybe to you, but what makes you believe that everybody out there shares the same opinion. If you are a below average player, how can this be something that is just not a big deal to you, if you are losing constantly and consistently to alt accounts used by players that have no business being in your low lobbies?  

In my opinion, like Recon said, if an account has been hacked than it makes sense... its a new primary account. These reasons like -  I'm making a new account for the grind. Streaming for views or clout. Tired of playing sweaty. Want to feel better about my self. Enjoy beating up noobs and low skilled players. Or - I'm going to fight for a way to make gaming fun for myself. I don't care what anyone else thinks anymore - such as you stated above - all come at the expense of other people. That in itself is a much bigger problem. 

You mentioned yourself - "The games I get in Bronze through Silver are typically way harder than Gold or Plat matches." One of the reasons this is - is exactly that. The amount of alt accounts being used over and over again. Bronze through to silver have more top end players on alt accounts in it than legit real players that live in that skill bracket. Obviously being matched with noob players and low skilled players is a thing in those ranks as well as cheaters. But top players on alt accounts don't belong there in the first place. On top of being a noob or low skilled player, as if it isn't bad enough to face these accounts regularly again and again getting beating to a pulp on the reg... but they have to put up with the frustration the top end player on their team smurfing is feeling when it comes out in the form of toxicity. Like its the noob or low skilled player's fault that the top player smurfing is stuck with them. 

I'll close with this - you also said the following - "I want to hangout, in a multiplayer game, with my friends, and not stress out, or completely defeated feeling when these opponents feel impossible because they cheat or just completely no-life a game" 

Now I know you are talking about cheaters.. again, however - This very feeling above you stated is the exact same feeling (defeated) that new players, low skilled players feel on the regular when being beaten up again and again by someone light years above their skill level on an alt account in the lowest of lobbies. I hope that you can understand what my words are trying to say in this particular regard. 

Happy gaming.