@prankstar2
Roccat is a gaming accessories company. So, they make gaming mice. Most gaming mice come with macro software. So, chances are, it's not against the rules.
Shroud uses a macro for full auto Hemlock on single fire.
So... yeah...
@Psyrecx wrote:@prankstar2
Roccat is a gaming accessories company. So, they make gaming mice. Most gaming mice come with macro software. So, chances are, it's not against the rules.
Shroud uses a macro for full auto Hemlock on single fire.
So... yeah...
Do you have proof shroud uses a macro for this? I'm not denying it, just haven't heard him say it. I really want to know.
Haha, you are not denying that someone says Shroud uses macro for shooting hemlock full auto?
Shroud probably can shoot full auto even with his toes.
If he does he should be banned...even though he's my favorite gamer anyone who runs scripts or macros is cheating and should be dealt with accordingly. By using macros you are automating a process that was intended to be manual
dizzy was also accused...
The argument ive seen vs the macro to fire semi auto weapons is that the macro cannot fire the weapon faster then it was programmed to do 'Normaly' meaning it has a cyclic rate that wont change with a macro or scroll wheel or fast spam clicking, all the macro does is remove inconsistencies in fire rate during battle
now, I think those inconsistencies are a self balancing mechanism in the game (better you are, the better your aim and fire rate are.) and i think Macroing any of that is a form of cheating, However its a weak argument since it does not make them better at aiming, and ii wont be reporting anyone for macroing fire rates, its just not at the top of my report priority list
@Psyrecx pls get your facts right. https://www.twitch.tv/shroud/clip/OilyToughPistachioLitFam?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time
Shroud is not using a macro for firing that weapon.
Oh, you got a video of him not macroing, that means he never macros....
I mean the Hemlock he single click fired full auto in his "Hemlock is Insane" video is completely natural...
It's hilarious that you left out, 'in this video' from your response'. Which would have been completely accurate. Unfortunately for you, you left it out, so it is not so much.
The problem is that even though the fire rate isn't improved you are eliminating the need to acquire target and then fire with correct timing. Tracking and firing single fire weapons take significantly more skill than simply holding left click and tracking. By using a full auto mod you are automating trigger pulls which now allows you to simply track and not worry about you fire timing matching target coverage
@Psyrecx wrote:@prankstar2
Roccat is a gaming accessories company. So, they make gaming mice. Most gaming mice come with macro software. So, chances are, it's not against the rules.
Shroud uses a macro for full auto Hemlock on single fire.
So... yeah...
I was quoting the TOS that you and everyone else agreed to in order to play this game, EA wasn't being vague about what third party software they were referring to, they directly told us "no macros". Someone famous breaking the rules doesn't mean that rule can't be enforced, that's like saying "OJ murdered people so that must mean that murder is legal"
@prankstar2 wrote:
@Psyrecx wrote:@prankstar2
Roccat is a gaming accessories company. So, they make gaming mice. Most gaming mice come with macro software. So, chances are, it's not against the rules.
Shroud uses a macro for full auto Hemlock on single fire.
So... yeah...I was quoting the TOS that you and everyone else agreed to in order to play this game, EA wasn't being vague about what third party software they were referring to, they directly told us "no macros". Someone else breaking the rules doesn't mean that rule can't be enforced, that's like saying "this guy murdered people so that must mean that murder is legal"
you're right, it doesn't mean that rule can't be enforced. but it's not. especially when it comes to "full auto fire" macros. murder however is pursued and enforced to the full extent of any law in any society (expect titan fall society 😉) thankfully that's not within EA's scope of responsibility
Where did they say 'no macros'?
It's fun how spamming wheel down (=pressing the jump button 20+ times per second) is fine for everyone, like a person could manually do that.
Any macro is a cheat. And player who use it is a cheater and should be permanently banned.
@preyandplay wrote:Any macro is a cheat. And player who use it is a cheater and should be permanently banned.
You should probably stop speaking in absolutes. It doesn't help your argument.
Yes, macroing can be considered cheating, but it's not always definite. It just depends on what the macro exactly does.
I would say a macro that changes the fire characteristics of a gun would be cheating. Taking a gun from a burst/single fire operation to full auto would be considered as such.
Though, there are some macros that just make games less tedious. Which is why a lot of games don't ban them.
And this is why games die...there's no difference between a aimbot and a "macro"
@HamoHitman wrote:And this is why games die...there's no difference between a aimbot and a "macro"
there is a HUGE difference between any maco and a aimbot
There isn't.
You're still runing a code from external sourcve to froce set inpouts that gives you advantage over those who play the game normally.
Cheats are also macro's, just like macro's are cheating. It is interwined and arguments like "but you can do it without macro so it's fair" - no it's not.
If it's doable without macro do it without macro, if it's not duable without macro then it's even more reason to prohibit it.
OK, cheats are macros but in the context of what we are talking about here a macro is just repeating a series of button presses an auto aim hack is compromising the games system and tracking players. a spam the jump macro just isn't that nor will it ever be
Yeah and Shroud is a cheater...so yes he would use macros as well. lol
@Villent_58 wrote:
If it's doable without macro do it without macro, if it's not duable without macro then it's even more reason to prohibit it.
Technically, full auto and bunny hopping are doable without a macro.
Macros aren't something a human can't do. It just makes it easier for anyone to do it.
You can cheat in many ways (3rd party programs, exploits, macros etc.), however, regardless of the method used, cheating is still cheating and should be punished with permanent ban.
You are the one who trying to break the reality and explain that cheat, it's not always cheat. Let's make it clear: Anything that helps you in any way gain an advantage over other players and does something for you is cheating. Games do not ban macro because they are undetectable. At least those that are installed in hardware (mouse, keyboard).
Probably most cheaters think the same way you do. Aimbot certainly does not let them get bored ...
Not everybody agrees with you, especially not developers. Most allow macros.
By your logic, getting a better GPU is cheating. Because it would give you an advantage over someone with worse hardware.
This is what happens when you try and speak in definites and don't actually look at the thing you're attempting to discuss.
Name me one developer that explicitly allows botting, because that's what macro's esentially are. Automating stuff that was not intended to be automated by the developer is almost universally forbidden and frowned upon.
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