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Re: Perfect Teammate Match & Finding System

@l_mRGogo I deal with SBMM more than a lot of people. I understand how it works with 5k+ hours into apex it self. I live on this game and when i do not like how sbmm is working for me i invite people. I do not blame the game i blame myself for solo queueing. I have went to pred solo queue imagine the torture with that. It was rough but i put myself through that horror.

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  • l_mRGogo_l's avatar
    l_mRGogo_l
    Seasoned Hotshot
    4 years ago

    @E9ine_AC 

    Thanks for saying SBMM is bad and supporting the issue. What you choose to do is irrelevant.

    Finding your own solution to a faulty system by playing not solo or not use SBMM system shows EA's inability.

  • E9ine_AC's avatar
    E9ine_AC
    Hero+
    4 years ago
    @l_mRGogo I mean its a highly dependent game on team game play. You will not get that with solo queueing. So I can say SBMM is rough but can it be better just by player actions? Yes. They simply invite people and never worry about being given under ranked players or players of lesser skill levels. Its not so much the games fault. If anything its a 50/50 issue. On one hand sbmm can not be altered by us. On the other hand we can avoid bad sbmm match ups by inviting people and never worrying about it.
  • l_mRGogo_l's avatar
    l_mRGogo_l
    Seasoned Hotshot
    4 years ago

    @E9ine_AC 


    If you want to avoid the problem completely, you can not play at all.🙌

    Anyway, back to the topic, thanks for supporting the SBMM not working properly. So how would SBMM be better? How would you like it to be?

  • E9ine_AC's avatar
    E9ine_AC
    Hero+
    4 years ago
    @l_mRGogo Let's be honest here no matter what changes could be made there would still be upset players saying its broken. It is a system I would not want to touch personally because it will never be right by the majority of the solo queue population. I say this as someone who solo queues a bit. It would be a hard job I feel personally.
  • l_mRGogo_l's avatar
    l_mRGogo_l
    Seasoned Hotshot
    4 years ago

    @E9ine_AC 


    We are not asking about the hard or the easy part. We say SBMM is not working properly. You say that it won't get better anyway, let's not touch it. It's like saying something, we're going to die one day so let's not live.  

  • E9ine_AC's avatar
    E9ine_AC
    Hero+
    4 years ago
    @l_mRGogo No I pretty much gave up because if the answer does not match yours then it is wrong. I personally in ranked solo get some cracked players who eventually end up on the friends list to play with. Other games i get not so great players its the roll of the dice. Every friend i have on my friends list i met as a random. We either played well together or one of us rolled the other one and was impressed. So if sbmm is upsetting me i got a load of people i can invite to never even worry about it. This is the concept that has not had an answer given for it yet. How can you avoid the sbmm issues that you say are there? Is there no way to avoid it? Or is there ways to never have to worry about it? Thats the question being avoided.
  • It's not the first sbmm post and it won't be the last, I have seen posts come and go. What you should care about is yourself, is it worth making posts over and over for a morsel of hope? It's been almost 3 years, Solo-queue will always be like that in this game or any other multiplayer game. Nothing will change that.

    As for my experience, I have about 2000 hrs plus in Solo-queue which is majority of my playtime. 

  • Cheese9Man's avatar
    Cheese9Man
    4 years ago

    I'm genuinely curious if there's a single game where the MM is almost flawless or does its job incredibly. I've played some of the biggest MP games out there like DOTA and Overwatch where there are also MM problems. In my opinion, it can be improved but having bad teammates is unavoidable. It's just that people have different game styles. Some people in the forums suggested to have "Playstyle preference" when being matched which won't go well since you can be sweaty at the beginning then just hold out a single spot during the late rounds of the game. Matchmaking will always be a complicated topic.

    edit: I was playing Fall Guys the other day and people were doing tricks that I didn't know were even possible. I guess the MM isn't perfect in this game as well. Still a fun casual game though. Bought it on switch too.

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    4 years ago
    @Cheese9Man That's really the hard part tho. There is no simple solution to this. Game makers have all of the data that shows how they can keep people playing their game and spending. It seems they've all decided full random MM doesn't work anymore. Apex keeps growing so they must be doing something right.
  • Asmodeus566's avatar
    Asmodeus566
    Hero+
    4 years ago

    @hayhor I agree that the MM is not an easy feat to master for the Devs and that there will always be some problems. Nothing is perfect. With that said I EA/Respawn have the data and I think they are constantly trying to make it better as a whole and as players there are ways we can mitigate some of the MM randomness by how and who we play with.

    @l_mRGogo 

    The car analogy brightened my day also. I almost fell out of my chair laughing at it and myself.

  • e1b2b41da38ee689's avatar
    e1b2b41da38ee689
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @Cheese9Man there used to be a way called pickup, that was the best SBMM yet manual and you had to know people you are playing with not to randomly pick, yet stats were available, community was open, selected few had server admin rights... so yeah there is at least one SBMM that works well every time 🙂

    Can it be implemented in Apex... lol sure not 🙂
  • e1b2b41da38ee689's avatar
    e1b2b41da38ee689
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @hayhor google fraud of Nicola truck company or any other = the fact that something is attracting people, attention, resources can't be an indication that someone is doing something right...except maybe misleading people 🙂

    Otherwise, this argument sounds like the one we hear probably daily - one how was the most KP and/or damage is right, rest are just brainless monkies and should remain silenced.

    Irrelevant to the thread but just wanted to point this out.

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