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Sand_spitter
3 years ago

Re: Valk / Flight

@XHelperZBecause I don't think that having her in the game was a good choice to begin with. Flight is a problem in and of itself. It does not belong in this game....just look at us, having a convo about a character's movement being problematic...just ridiculous to introduce something so unique in the 1st place. I have no idea how good you are at the game, but the "just shoot her" idea doesn't really solve anything. I would like to see you shoot me out of the air while I also have the ability to do an emote which makes it even harder while I can grant my team a whole reset when we land. Again, it might not matter in your lobbies, but this character single handedly changed how we play, that's saying a lot.

Also, how is it "on them" if you abuse the ability in the final ring when people can't see where you are while fighting? No other character is able to do that and their abilities at least give you a fair fighting chance in return.

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    XHelperZ
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    3 years ago

    @Sand_spitter 

    Is it that unique though?

    We have abilities that give vertical movement (E.c Jump pad, Gravity lift, Castle wall)

    Now her passive, sure that's fine to use, but her ult?

    Well the problem with her ult is probably how far she can travel, it's literally being cut in half in the next update... issue solved!

    Her ultimate will grant your team a reset?

    No, with the new change it will not.

    You won't be able to see where players are, you won't be able to scan a safe place to land.

    Others however will be able to see you land, you'll become a target.

    Yes whilst you might not be able to finish off that team, another player will be able to do that once they land.

    Games constantly change, the core of this game hasn't changed.

    The way you fight in close encounters, yes, though longer term fights have changed a bit, which don't make such a big portion of the game.

    This is just one of the many abilities, I doubt it changes the game that much.

    And again, the changes that are going to be made literally fix the points you have the issues with...

    Just wait until they release these changes, you can't just say they won't do anything without having tried it.

    And it's on them because they're not applying meta-critical strategies.

    Strategy is still important, if you're not using what is good then you're not utilizing it properly.

    There probably are so many strong strategies that exist, though haven't gained that much traction, therefore they're not being used massively.

    Now of course changes should be made when they're used too much to keep things fresh, which again, is being done in the upcoming update.

    Every abilitiy/ultimate can be pretty situational, you can't really say situational things are design flaws just because they're used in such a way.

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    Sand_spitter
    3 years ago
    @XHelperZ Yes it is unique, at least in the way it was done for said character. Why not make her flight more in line with Loba's bracelet where you actually need to do something other than hold down a button to quickly gain high ground? Make it a once off with a proper cool down. Why make it so mind numbingly easy? It's stupid really.

    I guess we'll see when that update happens but I won't be holding my breath. Knowing Respawn they either break a character completely or the nerf doesn't really matter at all. I still say they should have just introduced another character instead. Life would be simpler.
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    XHelperZ
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    3 years ago

    @Sand_spitter

    Loba is able to teleport to an exact position instantaneously, granting both horizontal and vertical movement.

    The travel time is a proper thing to have for this ability because it properly balances it, this would not work for Valk's passive.

    She becomes a pretty easy target using her passive, only being really useful when travelling small distances or when they're on your flank.

    Unable to shoot, whilst other legends with abilities like that are able to shoot... so it's pretty much in a good spot.

    Also the change to her passive would literally mean she'd have Vantage's ability... which is just not a good thing to do.

    If they released just another character with other abilities then you'd still find faults within it, nothing is perfect after all.

    You say it as if you know anything else would just be better, though that's just not right.

    Why do you have such bad hopes for these changes?

    Well at least, I'm basing them on a leak that wouldn't be something that you would be able to trust.

    Though personally I would think these changes would work fine for a legend.

    You see balance isn't just so easy, sometimes it can take ages to properly balance a legend.

    In this case we have the community greatly dislike what's going on, that means that they'll have to take action fast, which typically means dumpstering the legend.

    Well either way, let's just wait it out :v

  • Sand_spitter's avatar
    Sand_spitter
    3 years ago
    @XHelperZ Well yes, it can be almost instant for other characters but it still requires skill to use and master to some degree. That means more to me than the fact that it's slower and always on tap in terms of fairness. You use it situationally, just like every other ability and the fact that it's always there and so easy to control is what makes it so strong. Let's just agree to disagree on this one. To me this ability outclasses most things easily and people know this hence the popularity.

    Well, I gotta be honest with you, I never heard of any of these changes, but ok, let's see what the future holds.

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