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5 years ago

Re: Why is no one talking about the Triple Take?

@DarthValtrex IMO it needed buffed. When you have guns like charge rifle with 100% accuracy with no drop down or raise a counter was needed. Longbow as well with the hop is quite fast shooting sniper. I think triple take is in a great spot right not when compared to other snipers. The damage imo should be lowered a bit cause no gun with no attachments should nail 120 + damage from the start.

Im more concerned about the kraber and how it can now 1 shot players to knocked. These hp changes took sniping to become a meta this season for how easily someone is to be killed.

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  • DarthValtrex's avatar
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    5 years ago
    @E9ine_AC I suppose the Kraber can 1 shot knock people if they have white armor. But most rounds the Kraber is not in game until people have at least blue armor. If you drop to a slow side of the map and get no action you can upgrade the armor with crafting materials. But it is something to consider.. Perhaps body shots do 124? but headshots still hit for 300?
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    @DarthValtrex Nah with these hp changes i was literally 1 shot with gold armor full health. Purple armor as well. Red as well. Head shot is 465 damage. If you even missing 1 bubble of that red you are 1 shot material. The armor changes and hp changes need reverted.
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    5 years ago

    I do tons of parsing in the firing range for all guns just so i know the damage rate of said weapon on body shots or head. Which help me in a fight to know if i did something wrong or right. Kraber head shot is 465 damage. This is plenty enough to plow anything it touches. 

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    @E9ine_AC Yeah if they land headshots with a Kraber is a knock. But I think it should be, it's the only 1 shot kill gun in the game and only if you can land a head shot. I thought you were talking about body shots. Body shot from a kraber is what 145? I think head shots being 1 shot kills from the kraber is okay, its fire rate and reload time are fairly slow.. It also has really limited ammo.

    Plus it's difficult to land headshots with that gun. Definitely takes lots of practice to get used to bullet speed and drop from that gun.
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    5 years ago
    @DarthValtrex I dont find it ok when for 5 seasons now it did not do this. Head shots are quite easy to hit with this gun cause a lot just stand there like a potato. Some my 4k + Games was from having that kraber and a PK or wingman. Dont even get me started on the dang devo. I landed on one with loads of teams in frag. 8 kills 1700 damage in 1 min 28 seconds did i finally die. Game in its current state is 100% un balanced and broken.
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    5 years ago

    @E9ine_ACI've gone on some rampages with the Devo too. I just hope they get it to a good place. I love the Devo/energy set up.. Find a turbo carry a havoc until i find a Devo. The building an energy gun is just fun for me, but ya it could use some balancing. I don't disagree that some of the guns need some tweaking. But the Kraber is the only one I'm hesitant about.. Yeah I have done some high damage rounds with it as well. But I'd like at least 1 gun that's a 1 shot knock sniper.

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    5 years ago
    @DarthValtrex I can understand that its just a very drastic change after 5 seasons of it having its set damage and capability. I think with gold or red evo it should be a 2 shot knock as its been in the past. But that is me. It has never so much been the weapon that can just drop anyone in gold or even purple. It will knock their hp bar to half way point on a head shot with clearing the shield damage. I just find it very drastic and should been thought out more.
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    @E9ine_AC I thought the Kraber was always a 1 shot knock gun season 3, 4 and 5? If you landed a head shot.. It's always knocked people for me when I head shot them, no matter the armor. There was a small window when the red armor/purple helmet with 225HP on a Gibi and it would not knock the Gibi.. But for the most part it was always a 1 head shot knock gun no?
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    5 years ago
    @DarthValtrex It was def a 2 shot weapon with gold or red evo. It knocked you down to 50% hp if you had purple knocked you down to about 25% hp. I pay very close attention to these things as math is everything to me and applied to almost everything i see and do daily even as a player.
  • brakeit's avatar
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    5 years ago
    @DarthValtrex wrote:
    @E9ine_ACYeah if they land headshots with a Kraber is a knock. But I think it should be, it's the only 1 shot kill gun in the game and only if you can land a head shot. I thought you were talking about body shots. Body shot from a kraber is what 145? I think head shots being 1 shot kills from the kraber is okay, its fire rate and reload time are fairly slow.. It also has really limited ammo.

    Plus it's difficult to land headshots with that gun. Definitely takes lots of practice to get used to bullet speed and drop from that gun.

    Now its one shot if you use Rampart Amped Cover even to the body, which is insane. I`m not sure if its only to LP legends or to all.

    And this is with a purple armor. If you have anything less bye bye baby.

    Season 4-5 Kraber was one shot to the head, no matter what legend you are. The damage was - 435 to the head to normal legends, 457 to LP and 370 to Fortified.

    Head shot was a knock in any cases.

    As far as Triple Take, its definitely super strong. Its 2 shot kill even if you are 200. And its very easy to land your shots, if you got a good angle. Its easy to land shots on close range too, and this should not be a case with snipers.

    But atm there is so much OP weapons, its not even worth talking.

  • E9ine_AC's avatar
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    5 years ago

    nothing like being no scoped by the sent from these apex gods =p

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
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    5 years ago
    @E9ine_AC Yeah kraber has been headshot = down for awhile but I think the most body damage it does is like 167 so if you are full health with a purple or gold or above shield you should not instantly go down.

    This is one of those I need to see a video ones.
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    hayhor
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    5 years ago

    I just had a thought- How much does ramparts shield boost the kraber? I expect it would be enough to one shot knock someone with purple or gold armor.

  • pastaclown's avatar
    pastaclown
    5 years ago

    @hayhor wiki says Amped Cover boosts all outgoing damage by 20%, Kraber does 145 damage to body on non-perked Legends.

    20% of 145 is 29, 29+145 = 174. Not quite enough damage, you will literally leave them begging for death at that point. 

    Low Profile = 5% extra damage, base goes up to 152, 20% of 152 = 30.4, 30.4 +152 = 182.4 which means it will knock LL, Path, Wraith and Watt who've got purp or gold.

    OR LP gives 5% more damage AFTER 20% damage boost, meaning you're getting 5% of 174 which is 8.7, 8.7 +174 =182.7 so same deal. 

    Fortified just won't die. Ever. Can't even knock a blue shield target with Amped damage and Kraber. 

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
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    5 years ago
    @pastaclown Thanks for confirming this.I swear in season 5 I saw kraber shots to the body of 160s tho? I may have an old video. I'll have to check.

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