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PilotBAs
4 years ago

Remove Out of bounds & revigorated ring mechanics

So I have not seen this anywhere, and if it is somewhere I apologize. Here is something I never understood with Apex legends, the fact that there is an 'out of bounds', mainly an upper out of bounds. Isn't that what the Ring is for? [ Now I can see out of bounds behind interior walls to prevent glitching and cheating],  but there are places where people could set up interesting crows nets, fortify them, extra extra. I understand that camping is an issue when it comes to games like this, I too want to avoid increasing people camping, but I'm also someone who loves the idea of taking the high ground. If we could get rid of the upper out of bounds in a lot of areas it would increase the value of Valk, Rev (with his new climb that he can hardly use because all these walls have lips over them stopping you from actually climbing up), Path, and maybe even octane with his jump pad. And with these hard to get to places, defense ops get to shine in there light, and it's not like these places are OP, when you have bangalore's  and Gibraltar ults, and the lack of loot. As for the camping issue, another thing I think could be looked at is a dynamic ring system. The ring speed and size reflect that of the amount of people on the map at a current time. That way, if you have a really aggressive match making and you get down to 4-5 squads ( so at max 15 people ) before second ring, you are not waiting forever for the 3rd, 4th ring to pop up. 

The ring should be the mechanic that prevents camping, and by removing the 'out of bounds' in the higher places of the map, you will also remove a lot of the bugs and glitches some people run into with this function, getting it, and not being able to get rid of the countdown, lobas ring bug, extra.   

What are other players thoughts on this?        

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  • PilotBAs's avatar
    PilotBAs
    4 years ago
    @hayhor 1st wrong, all charcaters can get to all locations, with jump towers, valks abilty includes teamates, pathfinders abilty is universally used ( team and others) and so is Octain's. Now some chacters can get to those spaces by themselves, but that just adds the bennifits of those chacters; the only two being valk, path and possibly rev, but revs cilmb is hambered by lips placed on most walls anyway.
    2nd the upper bounds are not needed it's a game mechanic that I assume is there for camping. In a battle arena no area should be off limits, it's counter intuitive, plus the out of bounds system is flawed with bugs, and issues. Gettibg rid of ot solves issues, while changing the dynamic of movment and fortification of the game. This simple change would shift the octain rush metta, and incorporate more team strategies.
  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    4 years ago
    @PilotBAs No not all characters can get there by themselves. There are not always jump towers. And you should not have to rely on having a particular character to get there.

    This whole argument doesnt mean much tho. The devs have done a lot of work ensuring certain spots in play are accessible and spots that should not be are not. See original trainyard which you really needed a pathfinder for the carts but now has access from 5 different locations.
  • PilotBAs's avatar
    PilotBAs
    4 years ago

    OG Trainyard in World's Edge has always had a way for every character to get up to the hollow carts above; the circumstance you're talking about "not all characters can get there by themselves. There are not always jump towers. And you should not have to rely on having a particular character to get there." is already a thing on a base by base case, it's something a player should consider when picking characters expectedly for synergy with other teammates. Don't know if you realized this, but this is a team-orientated game and only recently been giving solo players wiggle room.

    Using your example, everyone now can get onto the carts in the train yard fairly easily, but what about the framework above the carts above. Pathfinder can place a zipline to get up there, Valk can rocket jump her crew on top of there, so why can't you stay up there? Or stay on top of the mountains to avoid taking tunnels as they are notorious kill spots?

    And with that said, why give certain characters the ability to get to places that are 'off limits? Why can pathfinder set his zipline in places considered out of bounds?

    Overall, removing the upper bound gives us players more options; removes bugs from the game, adds areas for them to hide Easter eggs, its a win-win-win; there is no good reason to keep it. In your case, where you have no teammates that can get to higher places ( which you can with jump towers, so memorize the map, and plan ahead ) OR your team synergy and strategies should reflect what you're good at. So a Crypto, Lifeline, Gibraltar team should be focused on CQC rather than high ground, open areas. All of them should use mid to close-range weapons as that's what their abilities work with, rather than pathfinder or Valk, who can make space easily and can easily use snipers and other long rang weapons. 

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