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4 years ago

SBMM is not actually SBMM

Hi I've been playing since launch and this season by far the worst in terms of sbmm I get potato teammates rather than my rank if it does go by skill level and determines your stats in the way that i...

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Redmattgame

4 years ago

@Cheese9ManI agree but isn't Overwatch's problem that the substantial drop in players over time (moving to other game) has affected lobby numbers rather than their rigid MM plus they have more game modes than Apex.I'm in no way advocating lengthy waiting times for Apex but surely there has to be middle ground for us 'casual players' than just being stomped by teams & players who dedicate most of their time to this game.As I mentioned in another comment short waiting times has left players like me with teammates short before the match has even started.

I only mentioned a solo queue only lobby to at least bring an element of fairness back into the game & got mugged off by someone who just wants quick waiting times.

BaldWraithSimp

4 years ago

@Redmattgame The point of pubs should be to provide quick matchmaking with minimum matchmaking criteria. If you are looking for fair matchmaking in pubs, I am afraid your hope is misplaced. Sure it's frustrating but that's the nature of mode.

Now that's out of the way, let's talk about ranked. Players are already divided by their rank tiers for fair matchmaking, so to further 50/50(assumed number) that population in a mode that requires 60 players(talking Platinum+) is a disaster for queue times. Or hell if it's 70/30 or something, then it's even worse.

They could test it in pubs, but it should remain as is imo. Big no for ranked, it would be a disaster just like Arena ranked experience.

I called it a 'worst idea', I will change that to a bad idea. Don't take it personally, I was being blunt.

Redmattgame
4 years ago
@BaldWraithSimp wrote:
@RedmattgameThe point of pubs should be to provide quick matchmaking with minimum matchmaking criteria. If you are looking for fair matchmaking in pubs, I am afraid your hope is misplaced. Sure it's frustrating but that's the nature of mode.

Now that's out of the way, let's talk about ranked. Players are already divided by their rank tiers for fair matchmaking, so to further 50/50(assumed number) that population in a mode that requires 60 players(talking Platinum+) is a disaster for queue times. Or hell if it's 70/30 or something, then it's even worse.

They could test it in pubs, but it should remain as is imo. Big no for ranked, it would be a disaster just like Arena ranked experience.

I called it a 'worst idea', I will change that to a bad idea. Don't take it personally, I was being blunt.

And so gauging by your comment/admission Apex has either no or minimum SBMM criteria (like many of us have always said) but seeing as how it is among the most requested fixes that players want to see in the game by commenters on other forums,youtubers & their subscribers & even pro players which is stark contrast to your 'like it or lump it' attitude. There are things like I'd see things change/improve in Apex for sure but 'misplaced hope' it certainly isn't as Apex certainly doesn't command anything like the game time I used play I just play other game more now I've moved on.
But as I have commented previously what incentive is there for new or casual players to continuously play a game when they are hopelessly outclassed by far far better & more experienced players game after game.
And to be honest Ash I certainly don't take anything you say personally whether it just be bluntly,partronizingly etc because opinions are like a-holes (everyone has one).