So Octane nerf huh?

@Daze623 Eh sorry but nobody trust people when they do that yes or no thing. Probably worried about you defining his answer however you want even if you don't plan to. I wouldn't trust it either.

@Daze623She is very powerful imo but in a rank setting certainly not. Def with the new bang smoke change all because of switch being trash platform that cant handle real graphics but want place them in a graphic intense game.

Her ult you are very lucky if it actually hits people her smoke as i mention easily seen through at certain points of the smoke. Her passive is mainly only thing that makes her quite strong. That boost of speed is night and day difference on if they can survive or not. So with that being said I feel she is a joke legend that will never be viable till they rework her timers on things.

Daze623, i just don't get it. How old are you? I'm asking seriously.

I have explained it with a super long post, why Bangalore is not a viable option in Ranked, and in Competition, there is so much better option than her.

And again her smoke is a 50/50 thing. Its not an escape mechanism, forget about being the best one, as you trying to describe it, and then try to turn the attention from it ....
Most of the legends have better escape mechanism. Wraith for example, this is a solid one. With a bit of brain you pretty much have it all. Even if you being stuck with ARC, you simply Q it and will not die. You dodge pretty much every ult in the game, and in any damage coming. Its get speed boost, and if you know what you are doing, you will get away.

I don`t know why should i write the same thing over and over again.

Bangalore was a solid choice, and the middle ground as what a balanced legend is and should looks like, but that was at the beginning at S5. Since then they totally mess up the legends balance, mainly the abilities. The game is super ability dependent now and i just can`t like that.

While Apex have so good and unique mechanics and does so many things right, its also does so many things totally wrong.

And again in Pubs with a decent amount of spend time on a certain legend and a decent amount of mechanical skill and knowledge you can make every single legend viable and not being a joke "tier".

Lastly Bang ult and tactical are a dependable tools. Sometimes will work in your favor, sometimes not.

Easy thing to make her better, and this should have been in the game from the beginning is to entirely dodge her ult, not getting slowed or damage by her rocket.

Her smoke is a different story, but i don`t think Bloodhound, Crypto and so on should be able to see you with their abilities.

As i said tho i liked her the way she is it, but they should have balanced the rest of the cast towards her, but they totally messed up.

I didn`t know there is a specific tier list with certain words, like joke tier. :D

You know different people may understand word joke diffrently?

And again i never used that word for her, it was the guy that first mention Bangalore in this thread, not me. :D

The only time i used the word joke, was about Bloodhound being able to scan and see Bang through the smoke. This is a joke.

As far as Caustic goes, the legend was not joke a joke even slightly. It was super strong, before the nerf, which was kinda overkill. But now i will get you with the joke phrase, you can`t call a legend joke, thats pretty much wad dominating for kinda some serious period of time. Caustic was heavily used in ranked and in competition actually. It was the main reason they changed how slowly the last ring closing. Cause you just spam his trap and ult, and everyone dies in it.

And believe me this happen almost every game on high ranked and in competition.

As far as not viable, see this is another case of a words that are being seeing completely different.

To me there is way more tiers, than joke, and not viable. :D I think i explained it perfectly with my previous posts.

Its an absolutely nonsense why we are even on the same topic on a thread that are not even for Bangalore.

Wraith tactical in the right hands s**** on Bangalore tactical any days of the week, any hours of the day and any minutes of the hour, and any second .... ah you get my point.
Its not even close to compare it.

With Wraith you completely dodge every single ult in this game, and there is plenty of nasty ones. You can reposition yourself without taking 0 damage, you can escape if you know what you are doing pretty much most situation. You also dodge any nades, and escape a certain death if they stick you with an Arc star.

As far as the passive, if we just look at the two, Bangalore its straight up better, but Wraith passive fits her kit perfectly and can safe your ... in many occasion.

There is a reason why top streamers were picking Wraith for 99,99% of the time. She is still picked heavily, but now most switched to the next busted thing - Horizon.

Bangalore and Wraith are not comparable.

Next season Wraith will probably get her LP removed, she will get buffed and will be top 2 pick again, and Bangalore will still be average.

The only reason i play Bang over Wraith is, cause Bangalore is barely picked. :D
With Wraith i should constantly play different legend, cause 90% of the player base pick her(this is a stretch but you know what i mean).

As far as offensive use, Bangalore is absolutely defensive legend. Wraith can be used more offensively with her portal to push and still be safe. You got it pretty wrong here buddy. Wraith was the most aggressively used legend, which is obviously offensive, and she is still a top 3 in that department.

As far as Tiers go:
This thing is old as you know what i mean.

But lets use the most common variant, which MK games also use:
S+(or S++) - OP/Broken - Horizon

S - Top Tier - Giby, Blood, Octane

A - High Tier - Wraith

B - Mid Tier - Revenant, Crypto, Lifeline, Path, Caustic(he is still strong)

C - Semi-mid tier -  Bangalore
D - Low tier - Watson, Loba, Fuse, Mirage

E - Garbage bottom Tier(totally non viable) - Rampart

This pretty much is my tier list. You can kinda switch some legends, depends on the situation. Like Loba could be with Bangalore, cause she is great for looting.

My god.....enough with the bickering lmao.

Bangs OK but not as good as she could be.

Not a joke legend, however not a serious threat in the grand scheme things.

@hayhor  Like watching a political debate rofl. Headache material.. xD