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5 years ago

So Octane nerf huh?

Watched one video about it and was reading an article about it, so now he got buffed, and people are enjoying it (I am not talking about the random randos who stim every second) that the boy got a bu...

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LordloshBang

5 years ago

Daze623, i just don't get it. How old are you? I'm asking seriously.

I have explained it with a super long post, why Bangalore is not a viable option in Ranked, and in Competition, there is so much better option than her.

And again her smoke is a 50/50 thing. Its not an escape mechanism, forget about being the best one, as you trying to describe it, and then try to turn the attention from it ....
Most of the legends have better escape mechanism. Wraith for example, this is a solid one. With a bit of brain you pretty much have it all. Even if you being stuck with ARC, you simply Q it and will not die. You dodge pretty much every ult in the game, and in any damage coming. Its get speed boost, and if you know what you are doing, you will get away.

I don`t know why should i write the same thing over and over again.

Bangalore was a solid choice, and the middle ground as what a balanced legend is and should looks like, but that was at the beginning at S5. Since then they totally mess up the legends balance, mainly the abilities. The game is super ability dependent now and i just can`t like that.

While Apex have so good and unique mechanics and does so many things right, its also does so many things totally wrong.

And again in Pubs with a decent amount of spend time on a certain legend and a decent amount of mechanical skill and knowledge you can make every single legend viable and not being a joke "tier".

Lastly Bang ult and tactical are a dependable tools. Sometimes will work in your favor, sometimes not.

Easy thing to make her better, and this should have been in the game from the beginning is to entirely dodge her ult, not getting slowed or damage by her rocket.

Her smoke is a different story, but i don`t think Bloodhound, Crypto and so on should be able to see you with their abilities.

As i said tho i liked her the way she is it, but they should have balanced the rest of the cast towards her, but they totally messed up.

Daze623

5 years ago

@LordloshBang You do know that there's a difference between being a joke legend and not being a viable legend right? A joke legend are those legend that is so weak it makes you question why you play them like Rampart and Caustic. A non-viable legend are legends that can still shine but not as great as the S-tier legends example of non-viable legends are Loba and Mirage. The question is not if she's viable, the question is do you think she's a joke legend?

Another thing, there's a big difference between "Being one of the best" and "being the best one" .Her smoke and passive compared to Wraith's tactical I would choose her smoke and passive everyday.

LordloshBang
5 years ago
I didn`t know there is a specific tier list with certain words, like joke tier. :D
You know different people may understand word joke diffrently?
And again i never used that word for her, it was the guy that first mention Bangalore in this thread, not me. :D
The only time i used the word joke, was about Bloodhound being able to scan and see Bang through the smoke. This is a joke.

As far as Caustic goes, the legend was not joke a joke even slightly. It was super strong, before the nerf, which was kinda overkill. But now i will get you with the joke phrase, you can`t call a legend joke, thats pretty much wad dominating for kinda some serious period of time. Caustic was heavily used in ranked and in competition actually. It was the main reason they changed how slowly the last ring closing. Cause you just spam his trap and ult, and everyone dies in it.
And believe me this happen almost every game on high ranked and in competition.
As far as not viable, see this is another case of a words that are being seeing completely different.
To me there is way more tiers, than joke, and not viable. :D I think i explained it perfectly with my previous posts.
Its an absolutely nonsense why we are even on the same topic on a thread that are not even for Bangalore.
Wraith tactical in the right hands s**** on Bangalore tactical any days of the week, any hours of the day and any minutes of the hour, and any second .... ah you get my point.
Its not even close to compare it.
With Wraith you completely dodge every single ult in this game, and there is plenty of nasty ones. You can reposition yourself without taking 0 damage, you can escape if you know what you are doing pretty much most situation. You also dodge any nades, and escape a certain death if they stick you with an Arc star.
As far as the passive, if we just look at the two, Bangalore its straight up better, but Wraith passive fits her kit perfectly and can safe your ... in many occasion.
There is a reason why top streamers were picking Wraith for 99,99% of the time. She is still picked heavily, but now most switched to the next busted thing - Horizon.
Bangalore and Wraith are not comparable.
Next season Wraith will probably get her LP removed, she will get buffed and will be top 2 pick again, and Bangalore will still be average.
Daze623
5 years ago
@LordloshBang "And again i never used that word for her, it was the guy that first mention Bangalore in this thread, not me"
BRUH. That's why I keep asking you if you think she's a joke legend or not because the whole discussion started when he claimed Bang was a joke legend which later he clarified that if you compare Bang to the S-tier legends right now she comes off as a joke which I do agree.

Regarding Caustic I'm talking about post-nerf Caustic. I call him a joke legend now cause he can't even do his job properly which is area control. I've seen so many players just sit in his gas and just pop syringes while inside said gas.

"To me there is way more tiers, than joke, and not viable. :D I think i explained it perfectly with my previous posts."
Well yeah there's more tiers but you guys keep bringing up viability which wasn't the point of the discussion.

"Its an absolutely nonsense why we are even on the same topic on a thread that are not even for Bangalore."
To be fair I only responded to a guy that said Bang was a joke legend and then you responded to what I said.

The main reason I like Bang's kit more is cause of the utility it has compared to Wraith's. Wraith's kit is really great for defensive purposes but Bang's kit has more utility.

The thing I "hate" about Wraith's passive is how hilarious it is when you get shot at and then you hear your Wraith go "I think someone has a shot at us". It's really great to find out if there are squads nearby though.

"Next season Wraith will probably get her LP removed, she will get buffed and will be top 2 pick again, and Bangalore will still be average."
Yeah but then again it's both a blessing and a curse to be average. That means you don't have to change your playstyle much compared to when Wraith got the cast time on her tactic and it screwed over a lot of Wraith mains.
LordloshBang
5 years ago
The only reason i play Bang over Wraith is, cause Bangalore is barely picked. :D
With Wraith i should constantly play different legend, cause 90% of the player base pick her(this is a stretch but you know what i mean).
As far as offensive use, Bangalore is absolutely defensive legend. Wraith can be used more offensively with her portal to push and still be safe. You got it pretty wrong here buddy. Wraith was the most aggressively used legend, which is obviously offensive, and she is still a top 3 in that department.

As far as Tiers go:
This thing is old as you know what i mean.
But lets use the most common variant, which MK games also use:
S+(or S++) - OP/Broken - Horizon
S - Top Tier - Giby, Blood, Octane
A - High Tier - Wraith
B - Mid Tier - Revenant, Crypto, Lifeline, Path, Caustic(he is still strong)
C - Semi-mid tier - Bangalore
D - Low tier - Watson, Loba, Fuse, Mirage
E - Garbage bottom Tier(totally non viable) - Rampart
This pretty much is my tier list. You can kinda switch some legends, depends on the situation. Like Loba could be with Bangalore, cause she is great for looting.
MandatoryIDtag
5 years ago
My god.....enough with the bickering lmao.
Bangs OK but not as good as she could be.
Not a joke legend, however not a serious threat in the grand scheme things.
hayhor
Hero
5 years ago
@MandatoryIDtag Been a funny read. Gotta give em that. 🤣😉
MandatoryIDtag
5 years ago
@hayhor Like watching a political debate rofl. Headache material.. xD
Daze623
5 years ago
@MandatoryIDtag aight. I guess I'll go back to complaining about servers,matchmaking,cheaters and bad teammates. xD