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@KelRieverTHis is just my opinion but I think we will see some adjustments to the RP system.
I like what the devs are attempting to do with the RP system. I think this current system just goes a bit to far. Some place in the middle between the old RP system and this RP system will be perfect.
Spot on statement and what I have been stating and advocating since about two weeks into the new Ranked system. Right direction but way to heavy handed in its implementation.
I think its the twitch metrics combined with other things (like the Cheeseman thread which points to the Steam metrics on lower game participation) that makes the case.
Not sure, though it could be, that reducing the RP penalty will correct things. I mean, it's for sure going to help. But I still have to believe the problems are at the core of this game, and that you don't have enough reward for solo players to work together. Even if you reduce the RP debt, you can have one bad player screw your whole team up on a regular basis, with a hot drop, or ignoring whatever the other two people are doing or whatever.
Somewhere else I had started to speculate on what could fix that problem, because even if you fixed ranked play, you aren't fixing the overall game. Of course, most answers I had were pretty heavy handed, like tethering your team to each other so you couldn't restore shields or health unless you were within some certain range of at least 1 other team mate. It won't help hot drops if 2 of your mates want to get themselves killed, but it would help when the 1 lone ranger goes and decides he's way more important than the other 2 of you. The reverse could be something that's not a penalty but a reward, like slow health and/or shield regen if you are within a certain range of another team mate. Like 50 m, so it's not onerous.
Those problems can be speculated on in another thread. The point of this one was more like I think the signs are showing that changes need to happen, and sooner would be better.
- @KelRiever A small tweak to ranked won't fix this. Only a full reversal will do it. I said it right away: You cannot let people have a much easier, enjoyable experience for 3 years and suddenly make major changes that result in the difficulty level being cranked to max. It's a video game. 99.9% of the people playing want to feel good when they play.
I fully agree with you.
EA/Respawn need to wake up on their new changes because they have to remember this is a game and what is their goal in making a game: Of course that is to make money but in order to do that, people must enjoy the game and have the feel that they can progress while having fun.
Currently Ranked is way to much of a grind, to much like ALGS play and not that fun because the balance of the new system is way off.
In silver4, 9th place and two KP = 30 RP -27 entry = 3RP gained.
In Gold4 9th place and two KP= 30 RP -39entry = -9RP loss. Hell 10th place with 5 KP is only going to give you a gain of 21 RP(G4) 18 (G3) 15 (G2) and 12 (G1), which sounds like a decent game but at that rate one would need over 133 games just to get to plat
in Plat4 9th place and two KP= 30RP -51entry = -21RP loss. one would have to consistently get at least 7-8th place and at least 3KP for a net gain of 5RP.
And before anyone says it one could gain RP in any of these ranks with enough KP, like 10 or so and placing 10th but who gets 10 KP per game on avg?
Ranked is now just Grind, Grind, Grind, double the time needed to rank up half what was before for no new or additional reward.
The Split will just add insult to injury.
Played some ranked last night and that was it, I am done with it for now. I will now join the ranks of those playing Trios, Duos, Arena's or awaiting the return of Control.
Numbers keep getting worse. It's still a short time thing but I don't think their mouse steps back have helped turn them around. Again, we shall see.
@KelRieverJust saw a twitch streamer tweet that everyone’s (Apex streamers) numbers are still down even after the collection event started.
Looked at steam charts and it did increase a little but did not go back to its usual numbers. Now I’m having doubts if the ALGS would even help their numbers. It’s just a few weeks from now and I don’t see any ads for the event.
Not looking good for Apex/Respawn/EA. Checked my account and I only played 350 games this season too.The bump, far as I can tell, came from a 3 day weekend, but yeah, the trend is falling.
@Cheese9Man my br games played this season is at rock bottom as I've no interest in playing ranked at the moment.
Mainly playing arenas for dailies and event challenges and I'm enjoying it but not playing anywhere near the same number of arena games as I was br games last season.
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