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I'm not saying you're wrong but didn't caustic get a buff at the start of the season?
He can take more damage and all legends move at the same speed. You can test this by having a race in the firing range with a friend.
As an ex wraith main I can assure you she is not op. I had to abandon her completely after the nerf. That 1 secondary delay when she phases will get you killed every time. And all you need to do is follow the blue streak she leaves behind and start shooting at the end of it and it's game over, I have no problem killing wraiths. All things being equal she will lose a 1v1 against any legend with fortify.
- 5 years ago
Caustic is fine. He is a really good legend but he needs a good coordination with the team to be effective. And also who uses him has to be very smart in placing traps and ults, remembering that these are not just offensive and defensive abilities. Try to look and some Master/predators lobbies and you'll see that he's still very solidly in the meta.
As for Wraith, i don't really know what people wants from her anymore, she basically got nerfed everything she has lol.
P.S you do realize that they changed her running animation and she runs just like any other legend right? š
- hayhor5 years agoHero@Cro_Pittt I want to see top level teams not run wraith for once. Things would get more interesting.
- 5 years ago
I am pretty sure they reverted her run animation to its normal form. But your point runs true regardless I do not think she is 100% broken and I think is currently in a good spot for a legend with such a good tool kit.
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- hayhor5 years agoHero
@Sand_spitterBuff? He hasnt had a buff for multiple seasons. The last buff was probably when they made it so teammates were not slowed in the gas.
He has had a series of nerds since tho including-
Longer tactical time. People seem to forget he used to have a shorter time.
His barrels are now super easy to shoot down before deploying.
His barrels can no longer be thrown thrown tight windows.
Wattsons ultimate stops his barrels.
Opponents are no longer blinded in his gas.
Caustic used to be a counter to a wattson team. Because of the 3 items above he isnt. He was also very good if used aggressively. Again, because of the those items this is no longer the case.
Wraith is still favored over every other character because she is tiny. Yes you no longer can just run straight in and then get away but she still is the toughest legend to hit. And the sweats still play her mainly because of that. Plus she can reposition herself and her team without taking damage.
Pick rate and comp meta says it all. The claim is caustics pick rate went up after the announced buff. Well duh respawn wasnt that the point? I'm betting that goes back down now.
I'm still playing caustic and having fun. He just has to be used a little different now and good players know exactly how to deal with him.- 5 years ago@hayhor I think quantum is speaking about the nerf-buff. Yes ppl no longer get blinded, but there was an increase in (begin)damage while in it if Iām not mistaken
- GH0STEDbyME5 years agoHero@Koochi-Q I believe it was like 2 ticks? Or something stupid like that.
- 5 years ago
I dunno man, I have no problem hitting her or getting hit for that matter. Everyone seems to have god level aim these days anyway.
Fortify counts for a lot up close.
I'm not saying you guys are wrong, but wraith isn't nearly as good as she once was. In fact I'd still choose bloodhound / horizon over her. To me her tactical is basically useless now and the portal is useless outside the ring. And good luck to any wraith pushing a caustic in a building, saw one on my team go down like nothing the other day in the final ring.
I get that they buff / nerf to balance the game but I feel the changes made to her were unnecessary, same with pathfinder. People were having fun playing those characters the way they were. If everyone felt things were unbalanced why not just buff the other legends and leave the rest the way it was? I don't think it's good to have characters with obvious flaws to their abilities that gets you killed.
- GH0STEDbyME5 years agoHero@Sand_spitter I don't think she's necessarily hard to hit or anything in particular. But I would say it's far more noticeable when you have a player that has god tier mobility and plays as Wraith. She just favors that play style I think. Maybe it's more of a skill ceiling type thing.
You're right about the fact that she's nothing compared to what she once was. I don't think she's that fun to play anymore. I get caught out in the animation build up to her tactical more than I do anything else. Or at least that's the death that stick with me.
The idea to just buff the legends is interesting. I completely understand the logic and it would be fun for you to be able to play the legends you want, the way that you want without getting penalised for it. Why not have all the legends on the same kind of level. It would be fun as hell but pure anarchy. It wouldn't be the same kind of game and I think new players especially would struggle with it.
- Zencho_3695 years agoSeasoned Novice@Sand_spitter i mean He is slower now, the traps are easier to disable. Im not talking about running, I'm talking about to set traps in a position.
- 5 years ago
I see, I did not know that.
In any case I agree that there was no good reason on the devs' part to do that or anything else that makes him weaker for that matter.
- 5 years ago@Sand_spitter the buff i want for caustic is his barrels put outside of doors then exploded, the area the smoke goes to is too small it should be larger than gibraltars shield, like twice as large as gibraltars shield. just throw a barrel outside a diir pop it and it goes into the door and opens the door up. good reason to take out the hammer and hit the door.
and he needs a lifeline like animation for his hammer please.
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