Winter Express Ranked
I think it would be interesting to add ranked on Winter Express and have it like before with shield cells.
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@Cro_Pittt
a) Please expand on the difference between competitive and ranked. I know what I think it is, but I'd just like to know if we're on the same page.
b) I'm truly surprised to hear anyone say that their ranked experience includes able teammates or enemies of roughly equal skill. That isn't the impression that I've picked up based on forum feedback.
c) What's so good about pubs? Given the poor implementation of SBMM in this game I can't say much positive about the pubs experience, although I would assume that the ranked experience was equally poor. Again, this is what I hear from other players on this forum, not based on personal experience beyond a handful of ranked matches.
When I have played ranked here, and what I remember from older games when I tried to take ranks seriously, is this: ranked players get toxic very quickly if they think you're deviating from THE META, even though they are themselves exhibiting a veritable catalogue of idiotic behaviors. This is a small but telling example of why rank ladders and team-based gameplay are completely (imo) incompatible. Assuming one solo queues. In general I would say that players across the board, in pubs AND ranked, exhibit idiotic behaviors with great regularity - but in ranked they're absolutely certain that everything they are doing is correct because they saw it on youtube, and for even questioning them they will call you names that you will have to look up. And as I said before, all for what? A badge that confirms you're in the 43rd percentile?
a) Please expand on the difference between competitive and ranked. I know what I think it is, but I'd just like to know if we're on the same page.
b) I'm truly surprised to hear anyone say that their ranked experience includes able teammates or enemies of roughly equal skill. That isn't the impression that I've picked up based on forum feedback.
c) What's so good about pubs? Given the poor implementation of SBMM in this game I can't say much positive about the pubs experience, although I would assume that the ranked experience was equally poor. Again, this is what I hear from other players on this forum, not based on personal experience beyond a handful of ranked matches.
When I have played ranked here, and what I remember from older games when I tried to take ranks seriously, is this: ranked players get toxic very quickly if they think you're deviating from THE META, even though they are themselves exhibiting a veritable catalogue of idiotic behaviors. This is a small but telling example of why rank ladders and team-based gameplay are completely (imo) incompatible. Assuming one solo queues. In general I would say that players across the board, in pubs AND ranked, exhibit idiotic behaviors with great regularity - but in ranked they're absolutely certain that everything they are doing is correct because they saw it on youtube, and for even questioning them they will call you names that you will have to look up. And as I said before, all for what? A badge that confirms you're in the 43rd percentile?
@reconzero a) You can tell something's competitive when there is actually something on the line (money in this case). Ranked literally offers nothing as a reward (i don't consider a reward something like a charm or a dive trail). Also imo some people still play ranked as pubs games, and tends to do brainless pushes or actions. But in the end you could have a different perspective of the definition of competitive, so that's up to you i think.
b) Well this of course does not happen every game, but at least there's more consistency in ranked than pubs. And i feel also that on console the situation is actually better. I'm currently in Plat and i've not been put in Predator lobbies yet, but I can see it happens regularly on PC. Maybe a console predator player could confirm or disprove this.
c) It's far from ideal i'd say, but it's much better than pubs, based on my experience.
As for toxicity, i've experienced it, but not that much. In lower ranks picks don't matter, they only do partially in Predator lobbies i think, and even there you can win as Mirage or Rampart lol. If someone keeps being toxic i just mute them and play my own game. For example yesterday a French guy was complaining all the time because our JM did not hotdrop, but apart from this episode all other games were normal, with enough respectful teammates.
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