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5 years ago

Wraith nerfed again?!

Wraith has a high winrate because most good players use her PERIOD, the balancing that you guys are pushing is based on the fact that you want to GUT the advantages that good players have because th...

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Sand_spitter

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5 years ago

@DioLuciferio I'm with you. I think any nerf to her or any of the early characters is unnecessary. So what if she's "better"? So what if a R99 is better than a P2020? Who cares? It's part of the game. Most games have this. And sometimes it's fun choosing the worst weapon or character intentionally and actually winning. If anything, pick rates are all about people spending more money on more characters instead of just one, it's an excuse I'm not buying. Respawn needs to come up with better characters that can actually compete with her and are fun to play instead of just nerfing anything good in the game into the ground, then you'll see more variation in pick rates. They want balance? In Apex? Not gonna happen ever. You'd have to make every hit box and ability the same and every gun's recoil/damage/ttk the same and while they're at it completely eliminate rng and bodyshields.

If we're gonna talk about OP legends look no further than the current Mirage and Gibby.

The old Apex Legends was so fun, now it's turning into Nerf Legends.

CompleatBeet
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5 years ago
@Sand_spitter What?
Legends need to be balanced, nerfed and buffed or the meta will never change.
- Sand_spitter
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  5 years ago
  What is wrong with the meta though?
  If they actually design better characters that are able to keep up with the good ones the meta would take care of itself.
  You can't balance a battle royal game with so many different variables and abilities and weapons unless you literally make everything the same. Some things will naturally be better, always.
  The game was fun the way it was back in the day. I agree with some of the buffs though. Gibby was weak back then, so was Mirage; now both are OP. But they butchered Lifeline, Wraith and Caustic to pieces. Why? Because either noobs had a hard time playing against them or the pro's complained because they couldn't create good content. I'm not a good player, but not once did I ever complain about my opponent's character being better than mine. If I died he was a better player, and I needed to improve my game.
  - DarthValtrex
    Hero (Retired)
    5 years ago
    @Sand_spitter"You can't balance a BR" Oh really? I beg to differ.
    
    For starters take Gibi who is one of the "meta" legends. He's "meta" because you have to do 280+ damage to him to kill him if he has purple armor. Some of the guns in the game can't even drop him without a purple Magazine if he has a purple armor. When a legend or guns ability is what's winning fights, not the skill. Then it lacks balance. If gibi has red armor you have to do 308.75 damage to him to kill him. If you're Bang he only has to do 200 to you. the 15% damage reduction + the arm shield = 308 damage. It's ridiculously unbalanced.
    
    Wraith is a good example of it, she's tiny and difficult to shoot. She has some of the highest win percentages both of matches and in fighting. That is why they are nerfing her, they are trying to balance it so that people who play other legends are not at a disadvantage.
    
    Sure all legends will have strengths and weakness and that's okay.
    
    But having some legends that are so OP it allows low skill players to beat medium skill players.. Then that's out of balance.
    
    SBMM has nothing to do with balancing the game. That's entirely different and an entirely different topic.