@Chief2GFD I get what you're saying. But this is the 3rd live service disaster at launch from DICE. They cancelled the previous 2 (Battlefront 2 and BFV) right when those games started to turn around. The issue is how long before this game is feature complete? How long before we have 18 or 20 maps in the All Out Warfare rotation? What is their long term live service commitment here? It seems to me EA and DICE have basically used live service to get out of the premium pass obligation. They are still on the same cycle.