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@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:Please guys do not derail this into an EA/DICE bashing thread cause all that will happen is that it will get shut down by the peacekeepers.
either way we will not get any answers from dice. i would love to have an open and honest Q and A from dice but idk about you but i haven't seen ANYTHING from dice in the past that would indicate that is even remotely realistic for us to get. they treat everything as top secret and anything that does get disseminated is scripted and carefully controlled
- 3 years ago
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:
@PsubondI do hope that all the people who are really vocal about that also put their money where their mouth is next timeI won't be putting mine there, if you catch my drift. I WILL NOT be pre-ordering as I usually do, simply because they haven't and won't respond to any issues we are having with real facts or conversation. I know the first Q&A will turn into a moderation nightmare, but you played the music and now it's time to dance. Take the lumps and it will get better...
- edgecrusherO03 years agoSeasoned Ace
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:
@PsubondI do hope that all the people who are really vocal about that also put their money where their mouth is next timeIf I get the next one, I'll wait 'til it's on sale for a fiver or something. DICE lost my money with the launch and how they continue handling 2042.
Some kind of Q&A's or literally any meaningful engagement with their community showing that they care and want to improve would go a long way in countering that. Why the leads at DICE think this current strategy is a winning on is beyond me, but I guess I'm not a product lead at a AAA studio so what do I know.
- UP_Hawxxeye3 years agoLegend@edgecrusherO0 It is cold hard economics mate.
The mission is to please investors in the short term.
There is no need for them to care about long term because their job will be the same whether it is a games studio or a burgers franchise. If the ship sinks they will hop to the next job opening for a manager for a publicly traded enterprise.
It is up to the payers to hold on their wallets and give them the motivation to make changes in their model. - Anobix3 years agoSeasoned Ace
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:
@PsubondI do hope that all the people who are really vocal about that also put their money where their mouth is next timeAs per usual, whatever ends up being next, I won't be pre-ordering [as I haven't done that for well over a decade]. The only reason I even had this game at launch is getting a discounted [about 50% off] code from a friend that got it with their video card. And this is coming from someone who has played almost every single BF game that has come out on PC.
- RMEChief3 years agoLegend@UP_Hawxxeye I am not giving them a dime. Even if it looks like the best game ever, I can wait this time. I know there have been bad launches and buggy games, but this seemed like it was all of them combined with the smallest amount of content possible for a MP-only game.
- Kona_uk3 years agoSeasoned Ace
Q&A = maybe having to be honest not a word DICE understand.
We will only get a pre recorded video from the smug ones again.
- Psubond3 years agoLegend
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:
@PsubondI do hope that all the people who are really vocal about that also put their money where their mouth is next timemy money is staying in my wallet when the next game comes out. i bought every bf game from 2 to 1. i skipped V because of sonderlund running his mouth. i'm not buying the next game regardless of how good it is. until they can release a proper game and not have the launch be a complete disaster i'm not buying another BF game. i will buy the one AFTER they get their * together
- 3 years ago
Agreed, I'd love a bit more transparency into the internal process.
There's times I'm just dying to know "What was the thought process behind decision X?", "How does Y fit into your list of priorities?"
I'd honestly be willing to pay to hear some questions answered, I'd happily buy some sort of 'Back stage pass' microtransaction that'd allow to me to get answers to a few questions.
- 3 years ago
I don't see the point.
They already put out regular patches/patch notes. Those are the answers to your questions.
- edgecrusherO03 years agoSeasoned Ace
@trip1ex wrote:I don't see the point.
They already put out regular patches/patch notes. Those are the answers to your questions.
Patch notes are patch notes, not answers to questions. They also only come shortly before patch updates, with little in terms of meaningful communication between patch drops.
- RMEChief3 years agoLegend
Do you want to know how out of touch they are with reality, here is the BF2042 Tech Lead with jokes AND 5+ years GameDev experience!
https://twitter.com/darkosupe/status/1560285076855967745?s=20&t=oMT7TR3dHTn69zXzH-X0tA
- edgecrusherO03 years agoSeasoned Ace@Adamonic Bro...it's a joke based off a new meme that even Merriam-Webster is having fun with.
This is why dev's are increasingly hesitant to do anything on social media and why many want nothing to do with interacting with the community. Because simple, inoffensive jokes are somehow interpreted by members as personal attacks. - RMEChief3 years agoLegend@edgecrusherO0 Oh I know it's the new viral meme photo, but it could be about any subject and be funny.
- edgecrusherO03 years agoSeasoned Ace@Adamonic It was about Battlefield, a subject he cares about and many people following him care about. I don't pretend to fully understand since I didn't play BF3/4, but it's still kinda funny.
Is it a banger of a meme on his part? No. But very few of the posts of this meme today are. Humor is subjective and all. - RMEChief3 years agoLegend@edgecrusherO0 It's all good, everyone is human, but it would be cool if he was like "surprise, server browser coming"
- edgecrusherO03 years agoSeasoned Ace@Adamonic I mean...that's not his role. Those communications should come through official channels, not a developer (and a non-CM developer) through their personal account. I'm on #TeamPersonalAccountsForPersonalStuff, not work stuff. There are official channels for work-related communications.
I know we're all mainlaining that hopium on server browser/persistent servers, but we really need to break that addiction and just accept that DICE is probably never gonna do it. - RMEChief3 years agoLegend@edgecrusherO0 True, he can post whatever he wants, at least he is humorous.