Battlefield 4 is better than 2042.
This is just my opinion and I'm curious to see what others think. Mostly I hate 2042. The remix of controls was a horrible idea. Flight is on rails and so horrible, beyond horrible, that I want to ju...
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@DrSobotaGlad you are still enjoying Battlefield 4, but nothing is dying or ending. Not yet. Your overly dramatic ending is probably self-satisfying, but it is not helpful.
Just based on pure historical precedent and data, the Battlefield 4 population are going to swing over to Battlefield 2042 upon release. If it is worth staying for... Battlefield 4 will be the game that dies.
Do I think that will happen? Do I want that to happen? I do not really know right now.
I think my answer is still yes to both, but I also appreciate the story that is Battlefield 4. That story is why I think Battlefield 2042 will be a great game... it certainly has all the potential to be.
I appreciate your opinion, but I disagree. Battlefield 4 has held on through more than just a handful of game releases, including three battlefield games (hardline, one, and five). Historically yes, there is a huge influx of people to new games; but if those games fail to deliver or live up to standards set by their predecessors, it fails.
I am NOT saying that it'll die or even be stillborn, look at what a resounding success NO Man's Sky has become after suffering one of the worst releases and mass refunds I know of. But, all I've shared is my opinion, which is neither self-satisfaction or meant to be helpful. These are my thoughts on the game as it exists in our collective minds right now, not on how I wish it to be. So far the beta has been a flop, with most complaints focused on a handful of major issues to people.
Controls
Specialists
Lack of identity
Vehicle controls specifically
Limited gun customization
I've seen a few well written posts going into greater detail on these subjects, but it boils down to a major sticking point at the moment: it doesn't feel like battlefield. It's 'innovative new gameplay' is just battlefront meets warzone in bad ways. This isn't just my personally held opinion but a common theme of disappointed posts here, just shop around. I believe they can polish the game up and make it something very unique; but right now it's not worth the pre order. I'm a die hard halo nerd too, canceled that pre order because they're dropping the game incomplete and that's not OK in my opinion. No co-op campaign? I'll wait. Plenty of people are going to get it day one and I support them in that choice, but not me.
My self-satisfiying ending isn't me predicting that 2042 is going to die, but that we're hitting a point where the devs are having an identity crisis which will kill the 'traditional' battlefield feeling and focus. We have grappling hooks from apex, specialists from CoD, a healing pistol from Rainbox six, etc etc. Again, that's what it feels like to me, in my opinion. Others will not agree and hey, good! If we all had the same opinion and ideas we'd never get anywhere so I welcome new thoughts on the games, though I do ask that we keep to the subject of games instead of sniping at each other as people with name calling or derision.
- @DrSobota Do you really think there won't be more control options in the released game?
Are you seriously suggesting that because everyone was restricted to one setup in the Beta, it will be the same in release?
Oh dear.....@Trokey66 Having now gotten to play the full release, my issues with controller setup still stand. For those that just piled in with "Well you can't compare it because patches and all that hurr-durr" Yes I can. Because I'm not complaining about glitches, skating around on your knees, random crashes, texture issues or anything else that comes with the growing pains of a new release. I am unhappy with CORE issues, the controller schemes, the time to kill in firefights, how gimmicky the specialists feel in the battlefield setting and so forth
Portal is the only saving grace, in my personal opinion. I have no real problem learning new controller layouts as a game gets new releases (who here remembers early halo games constantly swapping THAT up?) But I think is asinine to deviate from an established scheme. It's been a modern shooter layout for how many games now? I'm digging into the full remap option as I punch this up, so we'll see if I can fix it, but how hard would it have been to drop in a 'classic battlefield option?
The maps are gorgeous, gameplay is alright with the exception of time to kill in firefights (everyone eats WAY too many shots, me included) and how 'squishy' vehicle control feels. I'll get over the squish with more practice, so I'm willing to let that slide. I just feel like the game is trying to do too much at once and kind of flops on all of it.
HOWEVER: Portal has been a riot. Strange gametypes, classic BF experiences on old school maps, has been an absolute home run. Playing rush on basically updated bad company two, with BC2 maps? OH BABY! Whoever was involved with this aspect of 2042, brilliant. Absolute gold. So I did buy the game, and I am enjoying it, but only because of Portal.
- @carsono311 cant agree more with the title!
- @alucardgr Great. We will see…
2042 is good just beta was scaled down and they are prob worrying about windows 11
Gimme more BF4 maps I be happy to ditch bf2042 🙂
BF5 is king they ahould have taken that game and put it in a modern setting.
