BF 2042 takes 5th ranked game for PS5
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@Blackidus Well every BF prior to BF3 i have played from 700h to 2000hours in BF2 lol
BF3 was good ish but was lacking a lot in terms of structure and teamplay for 64 players setup same mistake in BF4 but was broken beyong repair at launch and for a full year so i went back to planetside 2 .. then BF1 and V were world war BF wich didnt interest me that much even if they had some neat improovement in some aspect but still NO proper stucture to enhance large scale teamplay ...
I dont expect anyones to " Go " i find it totally impossible to grasp how someone would waste his or her time hating on a game forums about a game they dont intend to play and just want to see " burn " ?
Exemple : i dont like fortnite . will i go to fornite forums ? Hell no ..
Halo infinite had potential i was playing during betas and pre beta phase i gave feedback .. Microsoft just wanted to apease the Controlers players and kinda ruins the game once more for MKB players and made some very awefull balance choices in terms of TTK etc.. so when Halo 4 feel better than Infinite there is a problems ..
Halo is another franchise some want to prevent to evolve .. But the problem is BF has never been ever stagnant it as always shift and changed there is no real " gold standard " for BF because everyones pick different BF as gold standard .. for some its 1942 others BF2 others BFbc 2 others 2142 others BF3 others BF4 others BF1 others BFV .. so yeah you will never ever come to a status quo when it come to " what BF should be " ...
Thats said i know probably more about combines arms than a lot of peoples simply due to my age and experience with this type of games BF being one of them .. Its been my favorite type of game for a long time And one of my Favorite BF was 2142 Titanmode because it was original it was awesome to play and i would love to see this mode return for 2042 as it was teased in BF4 last DLC but never furfilled ...
BF3 was good ish but was lacking a lot in terms of structure and teamplay for 64 players setup same mistake in BF4 but was broken beyong repair at launch and for a full year so i went back to planetside 2 .. then BF1 and V were world war BF wich didnt interest me that much even if they had some neat improovement in some aspect but still NO proper stucture to enhance large scale teamplay ...
I dont expect anyones to " Go " i find it totally impossible to grasp how someone would waste his or her time hating on a game forums about a game they dont intend to play and just want to see " burn " ?
Exemple : i dont like fortnite . will i go to fornite forums ? Hell no ..
Halo infinite had potential i was playing during betas and pre beta phase i gave feedback .. Microsoft just wanted to apease the Controlers players and kinda ruins the game once more for MKB players and made some very awefull balance choices in terms of TTK etc.. so when Halo 4 feel better than Infinite there is a problems ..
Halo is another franchise some want to prevent to evolve .. But the problem is BF has never been ever stagnant it as always shift and changed there is no real " gold standard " for BF because everyones pick different BF as gold standard .. for some its 1942 others BF2 others BFbc 2 others 2142 others BF3 others BF4 others BF1 others BFV .. so yeah you will never ever come to a status quo when it come to " what BF should be " ...
Thats said i know probably more about combines arms than a lot of peoples simply due to my age and experience with this type of games BF being one of them .. Its been my favorite type of game for a long time And one of my Favorite BF was 2142 Titanmode because it was original it was awesome to play and i would love to see this mode return for 2042 as it was teased in BF4 last DLC but never furfilled ...
@Stew360 Dude I dont care how much time you have played Battlefield games or any other games for that matter.
But since it really seems to matter so much to you here´s my resumé.
I have played Battlefield games since 2002 when it all started with Battlefield 1942 wich I also played competitive in a clan, whe where in the top 20´s out of 250 clans on clanbase at the time.
I also spent a lot of time modding that game, mostly creating maps for the Silent Heroes mod. After that i´ve played most Battlefield games except some console exclusives like BC1 and Modern Combat and also Hardline whas not my cup of tea so I never tried that either, but the rest ivé spent significant time playing.
I dont keep count on how many hours I spend in every game because I frankly dont care as long as i´m having fun and I dont care for braging how much gametime I have.
So do I know this franchise better than any other? No I dont, what I do know is that I love this franchise, it has been my go-to multiplayer game for 20 years. And I know that me as well as many other want not only this game to get as good as it can but also upcoming games after this. And that wont happend if we dont voice our oppinions.
And I do hope that if Dice and EA wants to know why their playebase is crumbling so that it wont happend for their next game.
But since it really seems to matter so much to you here´s my resumé.
I have played Battlefield games since 2002 when it all started with Battlefield 1942 wich I also played competitive in a clan, whe where in the top 20´s out of 250 clans on clanbase at the time.
I also spent a lot of time modding that game, mostly creating maps for the Silent Heroes mod. After that i´ve played most Battlefield games except some console exclusives like BC1 and Modern Combat and also Hardline whas not my cup of tea so I never tried that either, but the rest ivé spent significant time playing.
I dont keep count on how many hours I spend in every game because I frankly dont care as long as i´m having fun and I dont care for braging how much gametime I have.
So do I know this franchise better than any other? No I dont, what I do know is that I love this franchise, it has been my go-to multiplayer game for 20 years. And I know that me as well as many other want not only this game to get as good as it can but also upcoming games after this. And that wont happend if we dont voice our oppinions.
And I do hope that if Dice and EA wants to know why their playebase is crumbling so that it wont happend for their next game.
- @Blackidus
If it was true then you should love BF2042 because its the most compleat combine arms BF they ever made and the scale and dynamic weather system is something a lot of peoples have been asking for ..
Am i a fan of corny skins or one liners ? Hell no
But do i think now that i have given the game a shot that the granularity of loadouts , plus system and specialist give us some level of predictability as well as freedom to setup ours soldiers for X and Y situation while remaining usefull to the squad /team ? Hell yeah
There is no " next game " in the work .. BF2042 is not even in its first season .. they took tons of ressources to remake 6 maps from past BF .. Remakes like 30+ vehilces from past games and dozens of weapons and gadjets etc.. to " please " the purist of the classe system ,... Even gave moddable tools etc.. And yet these peoples ignore they did that for them .. And complain about the base game and medals and progressions lol
BF2 had no freaking progression per say no camo no nothing we were playing for FUN mostly .. While progression had some stuff to grind for .. Those who are " purist " should they be into that when they actually only care about past games ? thats a problem
DIce as never ever released a BF game with this much content at launch when you consider all modes possible all maps all playable spaces all weapons all vehicles from the whole game wich mean AOW , Hazardzone and Portal .. yet peoples say the game lacks contents lol I just cant beleive what i am hearing and seeing .. the Dishonesty of this so call comunity is to an extreme i have never seen ever in my whole life .. - @Stew360 Weather systems we have had since Battlefield 4, what are you on about? Scripted or Dynamic does not make any difference for the average player. And no, I dont love it. But I do know I can if they do some really good rework of the core gameplay.
If they bring back the core rock-paper-scissors gameplay that classes brought in previous game and rework the maps we are well on the way.
The "unlocked" loadouts sure sound good and fun on paper but it does not work in a Battlefield game.
"No next game"? Are you serious? They allready stated that 2042 whas the stepping stone for the next game to be more "hero shoother" oriented.
Do you really think that game designers and concept designer just sit around doing nothing until the next game? The Pre-production and concept for the next game probably started before 2042 whas even revealed, tha´ts how game development works. - @Blackidus Ah, BF2 was so much fun competitive! Maybe I've fought you, we ranked 7th in european league on year. We used to use a software to draw out different strategies and possible events to prepare and stuff.
I agree, hours are irrelevant. - @Blackidus There as never been rock paper scissor ever in Bf games Ever .. what are you even talking about ?
Also classes system are in portal you want it play it - @Blackidus I was a kid when BF1942 was released , so no! xP
Ouch, MS paint nice! The software was very simple, click and drag icons, draw pathways etc.
@Stew360
That's claim is BS! I'm not falling for your bait man... @Stew360The rock-paper-scissors gameplay even Dice themselves used in their marketing for previous games? You said yourelf you played those, did you?
"You started playing in BF3 and see BF4 as " gold standard " dont you ?"
You can´t read or do you have a bad memory? I just stated in an earlier post that I started with BF1942 and even played that competitive and moded it. I have played games from this franchise for 20 years.
They never said it out loud about being a copy of BF3/BF4 and I never claimed that, I said "successor" wich would imply the same core gameplay from those games with the improvements in movement, graphics and such from BF1 and BFV. Trailers used classic BF3/BF4 moments to lead us to believe it whas a true successor to those games while at the same time hiding the true gameplay.@BlackidusAlso you joined in 2016 that BF1 era also you see BF4 as a gold standard lol please explain how BF4 was rock paper scissor and how the classes with the 2 cutumizable slots were rock paper scissor ? And taking in account you could grab anyones kit on the ground ?
Also here was the start of the mess that was BF4 BETA wich was as bad if not worst at launchAlso i dont beleive youve ever played any BF prior to BF1 or BF4 at best
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-4/BF4-Beta-Massive-lags-because-of-CPU-usage/m-p/1616559#M10666@BlackidusTrailer star with sundance and some " only in battlefield momment " wich ate over the top arcady stuff like Renesuke c4 quads etc..
Did the specialist skins are corny yes do i want one liner corny stuff remooved Yes .. But Plus system , specialist and loadout was a well needed change in BF and you dont see everyones with the same weapons or gadjets in 2042 there is all sort of poeoples with smgs , shotty , scouts , snipes , lmgs or melee all over the place so the range vs firepower etc.. is the same even better ... BF4 had 2 weapons Ace and Aek lol 😆
Here the trailer its All bf2042
https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9EHere ya go, my physical collection with your pointless post in the background, proof enough?
I have more lying around somewhere but I cant be bothered to look for them for you.
I might have joined the forums by 2016 but that does not mean I Have not been playing Battlefield games since then.
For the rock-paper-scissors:
https://twitter.com/battlefield/status/1013876344604823552
"Balanced rock-paper-scissors gameplay has always been the foundation of the Battlefield series"
Classes means allthough for example scouts might be good at long range they also have the drawback of being worse for close range.
Assalut will be good at taking out vehicles and medium range fighting but would be worse at close/long range and relies on support and medics for resupplies.
And as the enemy you knew what you where facing and how to counter them. And yeah you could pick up others kits, but first you need to kill that player.
But this is a discussion for your other thread.
- @Blackidus And a Mckay with a sniper vs a mckay flanking him with a K30 does this " rock papper scissor " things disapears ? Or when i decide to equip anti infantry 30mm instead of miniguns am i as efficient in A to A ? this so call concept of tock paper scissor even exist in COD and had nothing to do with classes it also even exist in the same weapon categories Take a PBX vs K30 both smg wich one has more dps super close ? K30 wich one is more stable and better ay medium range ? PBX ..
Sorry you did not made your point across mate Ugh, I don't see the point arguing about a personal list someone made... This list is just made by 1 site, its not even official numbers.
Deathloop being 1, Back 4 Blood being on there (nearly nobody plays that anymore), A previous COD, Destiny 2?
I'll make a list too:
Top 3 Games to avoid buying currently:
1. Battlefield 2042
2. Cyberpunk 2077
3. New World
There, just as valid as another person's list...
Can you imagine something that has graphics like this:
Ranking better than BF2042 - says a lot about gameplay
- @Blackidus
I didnt knew that BF4 had some sort of classes # limitation .. but oh wait it did not .. so the team composition was totally randoms
Oh and BF4 recons could equip Snipers, Scouts , Carbines and shotguns ... mmm odd isnt it ?
So the recon were not rock paper scissor anymore in your gold standard BF4 were they ? Also a support could equip anything in the LMG , carbines , shotguns and DMR range .. thats a lots of ranges my man .. and a lots of different rock paper scissor stew we are talking about here mate .. What about suport kit upgrades predictability ? aka passive ?
What about the custumizable gadjets slots ? Where a support could decide not even to have AMO and just equip a XM25 and a mortar camping off limites trying to farm kills from a position no ones can kill him ..
Or a assault who decide to have no defibrilator no med packs etc..
So yeah where was the Rock paper Scissor in that compare to BF2042 ?
It was the same thing mate .. SMgs in BF2042 are the " carbines " that any specialist can have X and Y guns dosnt change the way battles work you still have snipers , still have Smgs flankers , Still have LMG sprayers , still have Scouts players and still have shot gunners and so on ..
And the " rock paper scissor remain the same as per choices of weapons .. just like you could switch kit on the ground or die and respawn with another classes or weapons you can do the same ..
You might want to reconsider your perspective and give the new system a fair go .. and revisit how BF4 was working - @Stew360 Oh i´m sorry I did not know whe where strictly speaking of BF4 classes here, guess I missed that part, wich I also dont like while we are at it. I did not like that there where some weapond classes that where shared across the classes but at least the gadgets where locked to the classes. One of the reasons BF4 is my least played Battlefield game.
Battlefield 1 and Battlefield V solved alot of the conerns I had with the classes, locked weapond types to classes and also, medic allways had heals and revives, support allways had ammo and repair, scout allways had spotting and anit-infantry gadgets, assault had anti-tank weaponds/gadgets.
You allways know what you are upp against and how to counter it when you recognize the enmies class.
@yodddd wrote:Can you imagine something that has graphics like this:
Ranking better than BF2042 - says a lot about gameplay
Yeah what rooster is trying to tell everyone is far more people would voluntarily play that, than BF.
You can all read what people were saying about BF4 right here: https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/battlefield-4/user-reviews
People hating on it as just as much as 2042.
You can all read what people were saying about BF4 right here
People hating on it as just as much as 2042.
- @CantGetRight Yes, because of instability, bugs, glitches... Some even complaining about how its basically BF3 gameplay-wise (you guys didn't know how good you had it back then!) and well, that was the formula that worked, that inspires teamwork, that awards everything you do... combined with destruction, good maps, lots of variety weapon-wise and attachment wise (with actualy influencing attachments) etc.
The problems with 2042 run much deeper than just glitches and bugs (unfortunately)
