BF2042 is now going to get clobbered by the COD Vanguard release

considering the less than lukewarm reception this year in particular for Vanguard's beta, I expect COD Vanguard to be a serious flop like Ghost or Infinite Warfare at least compared to the expecations Activision sets for a Call of Duty release, so much so that it might seal the fate of Sledgehammer games.
Vanguard as a product might just signal a shift in how Call of Duty does it's business, because the priority is Battle Royale. I expect a repeat of what happened with Black Ops Cold War where the actual game itself took a nosedive in interest and Warzone became number 1 priority, and even that was botched because the intergration of Black Ops weapons was a balancing disaster the anti cheat is barely working ever.

Battlefield though? yes the hype for 2042 is insane, it will lift the intial tide. but we have seen suspiciously little content, what we have seen from leaks is quite buggy and unfinished even by pre alpha standarts, and I don't buy the "it's an early build" excuse, I have played too many betas and both previous alphas of Battlefield to know where this is going. and I think the massive hype is setting people for a disappointment and backlash, also it's EA and I already see them making the season pass much more heavily integrated into the core of the game than ever.

it's entirely possible that both Vanguard and BF2042 become disappointments with lasting consequences for their respective franchises.

sorry for sounding this gloomy, I just don't have a good feeling about this year's showing from either franchises, and also considering we still are in effect in a middle of a pandemic, this has proven a challenge in game development across the entire industry, we can hope for the best but compromises were already being made and I can't blame the developers- their safety matter more than the games they produce.

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@infantrypeasant wrote:

Honestly @CyberDyme I expected more from you. I really don't know who ever started the BF vs CoD debate, but they are entirely different games and I never see a BF vs Fortnite or CoD vs Overwatch debate....

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Sorry @infantrypeasant ,

Think you misunderstood my post, as it was not a BF vs COD post.

I also consider them vastly different, though they are both AAA FPS games.

My concern is that the 'first mover advantage' that EA had with the long planned BF2042 October game release cycle now is lost.  As many gamers do buy more games (many both COD and BF), but they do not have just an unlimited pile of cash to spend at any point of time.  It was a great window of opportunity, as we have had a longer period with no new major FPS entrants.  But now with COD releasing first, then many of these potential BF2042 buyers will instead flock to the earlier releasing COD game and BF2042 will then get secondary spending priority.  So at best, a delayed revenue stream coming into EA as result.

The Big Bang effect being muted somehow.  Exactly by how much, we can first assess after the fact.  But the original strategic marketing scoop we had for EA is lost, as was evidenced already by the total silence at Gamescom. 

FYI: EA share price dropped to $130 upon that announcement, equal to a $4B value drop of EA.  Fingers crossed that we will still be in time to make the max out of the seasonal xmas sales...

No doubt those that want and can afford to, will buy both games eventually, though many people will have to make a choice come November as which to buy (or buy first). COD is COD and those players that love the franchise will buy it regardless, however those COD players whom EA/DICE are so eager to entice over, may not be able to also buy BF2042 from the off.  The problem then arises for EA/DICE, is when they get to a point they can but BF2042 also, will they have liked what they have seen/read about it.  I can see BF losing a few customers due to that - unless they smash it out of the park from the off that is.   

@CyberDymeI agree, because I was one of those guys with limited gaming funds who would have to make a choice between CoD and BF each year--and we all know that once you've invested a lot of time into unlocking things in a game, and you're keeping pace with your friends, it's hard to stop playing and switch to a fresh new game. There are a lot of crossover players, like me, that play both.

Also, consider that a lot of non-gamer people will be buying these games as Christmas gifts. So which one to buy? If CoD is the only one available when someone does their holiday shopping, guess which one is probably going to be purchased. There are many other scenarios that will impact the bottom line, too, but you get the idea.

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@larry_54235 wrote:

Ground war is a joke.   They tried to copy conquest and failed.  

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"Only Time Will Tell"

Alliances/teams/sides was selected with loyalty too/2 the Shoot'Em Ups everyone liked or not,The bet was called/on,Win some Lose some,Will COD fall or will NF/Battlefield meet their demise? 

"Only Time Will Tell"

@gruntbrews_vicv I was lucky enough to get on the Beta. In my opinion way better that the way COD has gone in recent times and more likely to steal veteran COD players than BF who want a more realistic game without the Fortnite style skins.