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Stew360's avatar
Stew360
4 years ago

BF3 wasnt a " Bad game " like COD arena But BF2042 is a true Combine arms BF

The narative against BF2042 as got to new height of disingenuousity Some calling rumors spread by made up " gaming journalist " as truth and so on  But the reality is BFBC or BF3 were way more of a...
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Blackidus's avatar
Blackidus
4 years ago
@Stew360 The Bad Company games where spin-off games, that´swhy they are different. And thats why they where accepted by the fans.

And BF3 whas not the first game to have infantry focused maps or an infantry focused expansion. Remember BF2 Karkand, Mashtur, Sharqi, Jalalabad and the entire special forces expansion? And maybe half of the Battlefield Vietnam maps where focused on infantry gameplay.

I mean even BF1942 had infantry focused maps, it had Berlin and Stalingrad. And I don´t think people are arguing wether or not 2042 is a combined arms game or not because it is. It´s just that the map design cater alot to vehicle players with lack of cover or infantry focused areas.

Since you cant have 64 or 128 players driving around in their own tanks at all times, maps needs infantry focused areas. Look at Panzerstorm, big map with good areas with cover in the middle for infantry. Or Provence, vehicles and infantry get half the map each.
  • Stew360's avatar
    Stew360
    4 years ago
    @Blackidus
    BF3 was called by most BF2 hardcore fan a " disgrace " or a " COD clone " because there was a clear bias and extended catering to the COD audiences while you could cherry pick X and Y maps that favor infantry ..

    I could do the same in 2042 and say Hey Manifest actually favor infantry by a long marging giving infantry hiding spots high ground , tons of cover etc.. and infantry mostly dominate this map if Air vs Air are doing their jobs

    Discarded D1 D2 C1 area and actually most capture points area are all Infantry dominated and in between objectives is where Vehicles gameplay shine and that is proper combines arms gameplay where some area of the maps favor one type and the other favor the other ..

    I could give undreads of exemples where infantry dominate in 2042 and where vehicles dominate in " COnquest " not other modes ...

    BF3 was heavily focused on infantry combat and many have developped this habits of never playing at all as tanks , or air etc.. wich isnt much of a compleate BF player ..

    Metro 24/7 servers farms was a thing for a reason where peoples who normally would have had a 0.5 kdr were able to stats pad 5.0+ KD and so on .. Every exemples i gave from my old videos were pretty much casi infantry exclusive maps and the large scales maps were rare and almost never brought into the rotation on most servers we could play in ..

    BF2042 is back on Large scale combines arms and its a good thing to me and its why i already played more 2042 in few months than i did BF3 and BF4 in years
    • NiCeDiCe90's avatar
      NiCeDiCe90
      4 years ago

      Everything you accuse the majority of players here you are actually doing 10 times a day by repeating you opion over and over and over again.

      But like said before: That doesnt make it true. It's still just your opinion.

      I don't even want to answer on that anymore.

      But about the weapons because it's funny:

      In BF3 the Meta AR was the M16. Let's look where it is on my profile (because everything else isn't viable amr?)

      Was actually hard to find between all those weapons nobody ever uses...

      https://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/NiCeDiCe90/weapons/338954595/pc/

    • Blackidus's avatar
      Blackidus
      4 years ago

      @Stew360I never heard that complaint about BF3 myself, biggest gripe I had whas the blue filter, that whas it. Never saw it as a COD clone and I for one hated Metro and don´t see the apeal of those grind maps, but I know other people like them so I let them have their fun over there while I played Kharg Island for example whas one of my favourites.

      BF3 is also one of the few games that actually got a armour focused DLC with "Armoured Kill", I think Dice made a good variety of maps for all kind of players in BF3. But I guess you only have eyes for the infantry focused maps in BF3.

      And I could agree about Manifest and Discarded having a few good infantry focused capture points. But you need cver inbetween the objectives as well. When you as infantry in 2042 have to move between objectives there is no cover, you have to cross open fields to get to your next objective (except Manifest maybe when you are not being farmed by hellis)

      Good large maps from previous games have some kind of pathway for infantry in between objectives that has a lot of cover. Even Galicia wich many see as an open field had alot of paths for infantry to get around behind and in cover. You had the river, trenches and craters to use as cover.

      • Stew360's avatar
        Stew360
        4 years ago
        @Blackidus Kaleidoscope the worst map ever still for D1 F1F2G1 that are very infantry focus and even B1 B2 is normally dominated with foot soldiers still and tank get EMP , Hacks and M5 recoiless non stop in a blink of an eye lol

        Now that peoples got use to the game vehicles gameplay is way harder than playing infantry Both require insane amount of team work to pull off anything .. But i still find playing as infantry easier than playing in vehicles in most maps .. Peoples that are still playing the game are not the Day1 clueless player .. They know how to EMP , hacks , EMP drones and so on .. Sundance Pulse EMP C5 wingsuits and so on

        The only thing is infantry need a skillfull rocket with a bit more projectle velocity and we need less Lock on spam

        Every maps have a lots of infantry base area . things are not perfect between capture points tho and its not far from balanced but many areas are problematics but so were many area in caspian border for exemple and many others BF maps trough history .. Yet peoples only complain about 2042 because they are now " forced " into map rotation while before many of those who complain now were playing 1 map 24/7 ..

        The main problem with 2042 is not just the game , its also the kind of players who play it .. They do not want to learn , adapt , try new things .. They want confort , ease of use . no need to learn anything new .

        In 2042 i forced myself using a lots of weapons i found terrible at first . then i played with them until i got mastery 40 + And i have discovered that almost every weapons are really good even the Vcar lol

        I hated the 880 for my first 200 kills after that i was loving it etc..etc..

        Same goes for a lot of vehicles .. hated the Hokum , Hated the 120mm tank and so on and once use to it , it grew on me and i was performing better and better ..

        Same for maps there was many maps i found terrible before i knew the flow of the maps ,. the way to use the terrain etc.. but i end up loving pretty much every maps even if Breakaway and kaleidoscope remain the worst to me ..

        But i still love parts of those 2 maps i dislike the most .. there is a lot of good in those maps .. fighting in discarded D1 D2 C1 is really amasing as infantry and so on

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