Changes needed for fxaa and soflam/recoilless
In 128 player matches there are potentially 20-30+ fxaa locking into 3-4 air vehicles at any time in various spots. The whole map is a minefield for vehicles + rao can disable flares. I know a lot...
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@PsubondThen surely, you can fly the nightbird and go 50-2 no problem, right?
Try flying it. You will be constantly locked on and constantly in danger from the ground and the sky. Nightbirds are not the problem, Hind/Condor is, and a nightbird that has more survivability on your team is the counter to that.
All this change is asking for is that nightbirds that are locked on from the maximum range have a chance of escaping on maps that have very little vertical cover and lots of wide open skies that are 100% chance of being shot down by infantry that just gets to left trigger lock, right trigger shoot with no skill involved.
@SpudBug Read the op. The op is a request to nerf fxm/soflam/m5. I was telling him how to make it difficult for infantry to shoot him down
- @Psubond ah sorry reading failure - but you're making my same point
players who haven't attempted to use the helis and especially nightbird dont understand how fragile they are and how they bascially are targeted by everything on the battlefield except tanks.
@SpudBug wrote:
@Psubondah sorry reading failure - but you're making my same point
players who haven't attempted to use the helis and especially nightbird dont understand how fragile they are and how they bascially are targeted by everything on the battlefield except tanks.Oh no that ain't true if I'm in a tank I'll shoot at 'em 😬
"Fragile" or not, they seem to cause a helluva lot of carnage in most games I play.
I'll spend a whole round hunting them, if necessary. Hell, I'd throw rocks at 'em if that was all I had left.
@Ironhead841 wrote:
@SpudBug wrote:
@Psubondah sorry reading failure - but you're making my same point
players who haven't attempted to use the helis and especially nightbird dont understand how fragile they are and how they bascially are targeted by everything on the battlefield except tanks.Oh no that ain't true if I'm in a tank I'll shoot at 'em 😬
"Fragile" or not, they seem to cause a helluva lot of carnage in most games I play.
I'll spend a whole round hunting them, if necessary. Hell, I'd throw rocks at 'em if that was all I had left.
Hahaha I would pay good money to see you throwing rocks at heli's, but I definitely admire your tenacity. 😃
@SpudBug wrote:
@Psubondah sorry reading failure - but you're making my same point
players who haven't attempted to use the helis and especially nightbird dont understand how fragile they are and how they bascially are targeted by everything on the battlefield except tanks.You keep making this suggestion that players who haven't flown the Nightbird don't understand how fragile they are.
This is demonstrably untrue - I've seen plenty go down after one M5 hit through the goggles of my SOFLAM.
Flippant comment aside, the Nightbird is an extremely powerful vehicle in the right hands. From the perspective of a dedicated groundpounder (I haven't mained the helicopter since BF2, although I do spend a great deal of time flying in, well, flying games), I think the decision to exclude infantry from your consideration is artificial and, ultimately, misguided.
Simply put, I main the SOFLAM and my mates who also play use the M5 because and only because of the otherwise OP nightbird - a single shoulder-mounted AA missile doesn't do sufficient damage against it, and well-flown Nightbirds are, as observed elsewhere on this thread, almost impossible to kill.
I'm going to say it: The AA options aren't OP; you need to fly better.
- @filthy_vegans I thought the M5 couldn't be guided even when the target was lit up by the SOFLAM?
