I would like to see a 2 minute delay in vehicle spawns for fair play. It is very common for players to use planes as a taxi to capture all flags before the opposing team has even loaded the map. Anyone who knows Battlefield knows that 90% of the time it will be a farm round. A delay in vehicle spawns would lead to more fair rounds.
I support the delay. Fair play. It will force players to actually be the "boots on the ground" rather than spamming planes/vehicles. You know.. no battle was ever won with just planes. You got to have them troopers. On another note, I also do support a limited amount of vehicles/planes spawn in each round. There can't be unlimited amount of spawns (no matter the delay). It is frustrating to play with the limited amount - I know. I hate it too. If both (delay & limited) are implemented - the game will se an exponential amount of actual gun fights.
/salute.
@lzilchetl wrote:
@cso7777 wrote:
@ElliotLHThat was really awful in BFV and BF1 had the same problem as well (to some extent).
BF4 was actually ok, because most maps had lots of transport vehicles for infantry and planes/choppers had to take off at base.
Spawning inside flying planes (like BF1/BFV) has too many drawbacks.
Having a "delayed" spawn for planes/vehicles would not feel "right" for vehicle players, and the BF4 way of doing things would probably be the best solution.I thought BFV had a delay. May be a short one but I'd swear that the planes didn't pop up on the spawn map until a while after the ground troops had started the game?
Yes but it took a few months after release... you was for arround over a month able to start in a plane and swipe out the enemy team while they was still spawning.
Now there is a "Delay" but it is how it should supposed to be... Vehicle should spawn as soon you start the round, but not before the round will start, this isn't fair and doesn't make fun at all.
@CloudMcRip wrote:
@lzilchetl wrote:
@cso7777 wrote:
@ElliotLHThat was really awful in BFV and BF1 had the same problem as well (to some extent).
BF4 was actually ok, because most maps had lots of transport vehicles for infantry and planes/choppers had to take off at base.
Spawning inside flying planes (like BF1/BFV) has too many drawbacks.
Having a "delayed" spawn for planes/vehicles would not feel "right" for vehicle players, and the BF4 way of doing things would probably be the best solution.I thought BFV had a delay. May be a short one but I'd swear that the planes didn't pop up on the spawn map until a while after the ground troops had started the game?
Yes but it took a few months after release... you was for arround over a month able to start in a plane and swipe out the enemy team while they was still spawning.
Now there is a "Delay" but it is how it should supposed to be... Vehicle should spawn as soon you start the round, but not before the round will start, this isn't fair and doesn't make fun at all.
If memory serves you could also roadkill the enemy team on Rotterdam, by reversing with a tank.
@lzilchetl wrote:
I thought BFV had a delay. May be a short one but I'd swear that the planes didn't pop up on the spawn map until a while after the ground troops had started the gam
The idea was't that bad, that the planes started earlier, but I think it was a "we intend the players to do this, but they do something else" moments in game design that let to the "ACHTUNG BOMBER" moments where everyone watched with panicked open eyes at the bomber closing for the kill run, while being stuck in the main base.
I arrested 2 double agents the moment Al Sundan opened .
Two sets of secret documents were recovered from them .
The English version meant for the Americans reads :
'The Intel is rock solid on this .
Apparently there's Bombers headed towards 'E' .
Somebody good should start manning the AA .'
The German version that I've translated for you reads :
'The Intel is rock solid on this .
Apparently there's a massing of troops at 'E' .
Somebody good should start flying there in a Bomber .'
What happened next?
Well , this spy thinks Choice happened next .
I mean , the Intel was rock solid .
I am for anything that curbs using jets as taxi's. I don't use jets but nothing more annoying than watching some * do that to cap a flag.
Alternatively, the anti-vehicle options for infantry need to be more ubiquitous. Not everyone should have the rocket capabilities of the Engineer class, but currently playing the Engineer in BF4 feels far too mandatory far too often. I'd love to focus on another kit, but you just won't be as effective in Conquest playing anything other than Engineer with the exception of some very specific strats on some specific maps (i.e. Recon for rooftop respawn beacons).
I'd like to see that change. Give the other classes an anti-vehicle projectile or similar device, but keep it weak so that it would take multiple infantry focusing the vehicle to destroy it. C4, while fun and hilarious on the off-chance the vehicle occupants are narcoleptic, isn't an effective countermeasure.
