I hate all out warfare because of the specialists and the awful map design. The graphics are also a whole separate issue that I'm not going to talk about. But Dice, please delete these two massive problems with the game and give us a true battlefield experience like you did with portal. It's not like you are incompetent, cause you did do it with portal. Now copy that method and add on to it.
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I hate specialists with all my heart. These obnoxious loud-mouth heroes don't belong in Battlefield. Battlefield is not a hero shooter.
Hero shooter : A hero shooter is a subgenre of shooter games that cover both the first-person shooter and third-person shooter genres. These games emphasize hero-characters that have distinctive abilities and/or weapons that are specific to them.
Specialists specifically make Battlefield a hero shooter
Battlefield games previously were not hero shooters because previously our player character did not matter. Empty slate, no personality, no name. The appearance, background,
name, location did not matter with regards to that character.
In 2042 Maria Falck and Maria Falck only has access to the syringe gun.
In bf1 generic Ottoman, German, British, Red Army, White Army medic had access to the same stuff that the other faction's medic, who was a different face but still a generic no-name had.
In short, you could insert any character at all into any class and it wouldn't clash with the system but in 2042 retired Swedish(??) Combat Medic Maria Falck with defined backstory could never be anything but Maria Falck and her trait is specific to Maria Falck and Maria Falck only
As for functionality, it would seem classes are ironically more specialized than specialists.
Again using bf1:
Assault specialized in anti vehicle, SMGMedic specialized in healing/reviving, auto-loading rifle
Support specialized in LMGs, suppression, supplying
Recon specialized in snipers, spotting
Specialists are not special. Anybody can be anything and I find that extremely boring and lackluster
@rippedwire01 wrote:I hate specialists with all my heart. These obnoxious loud-mouth heroes don't belong in Battlefield. Battlefield is not a hero shooter.
Hero shooter : A hero shooter is a subgenre of shooter games that cover both the first-person shooter and third-person shooter genres. These games emphasize hero-characters that have distinctive abilities and/or weapons that are specific to them.
Specialists specifically make Battlefield a hero shooter
Battlefield games previously were not hero shooters because previously our player character did not matter. Empty slate, no personality, no name. The appearance, background,
name, location did not matter with regards to that character.In 2042 Maria Falck and Maria Falck only has access to the syringe gun.
In bf1 generic Ottoman, German, British, Red Army, White Army medic had access to the same stuff that the other faction's medic, who was a different face but still a generic no-name had.
In short, you could insert any character at all into any class and it wouldn't clash with the system but in 2042 retired Swedish(??) Combat Medic Maria Falck with defined backstory could never be anything but Maria Falck and her trait is specific to Maria Falck and Maria Falck only
As for functionality, it would seem classes are ironically more specialized than specialists.
Again using bf1:
Assault specialized in anti vehicle, SMGMedic specialized in healing/reviving, auto-loading rifle
Support specialized in LMGs, suppression, supplying
Recon specialized in snipers, spotting
Specialists are not special. Anybody can be anything and I find that extremely boring and lackluster
Anybody can be anything but only Falck can be Falck with her syrette pistol?
Contradict much?
As to your BFI examples....
Assualt were more concerned with using Helriegels and SMG-08s.
Support couldn't suppress a sneeze nevermind a sniper and were often found chasing after the vehicles Assualt ignored with Limpets.
Yes, Medics revived unless they had a grenade launcher equipped of course.
And Recon usually just sniped......
1. Ok. I meant anybody can use anything and nothing is specialized. sorry if that wasn't clear
2-whatever your last point was : Sure. Doesn't detract from my points
assault still specialized in smgs and anti-vehicle equipment. Hellriegel usage doesn't detract from that
medics still specialized in healing/reviving and auto-loading rifles. The option of a grenade launcher doesn't make the healing any less exclusive
Support still had access to lmgs and resupply. Exclusive only to them
Recon was the only class to use snipers. Exclusive only to them
You understand now why I think classes are more specialized than specialists
Surely you get my point, now right?
@SirBobdk wrote:
@Daeyon-be
Yes, that was also my view after the beta. I liked the size, but there was really a lack of cover. However, this is something DICE should be able to fix.
I'm going to buy the game at some point. But like many others, I also think there is a lot to be done before the game is where it should be. I hope it's going to happen.
Trust me mate, there's plenty of infantry cover on 2042 maps if you know how to play Battlefield. Even on Dust Bowl you learn to dip in between the valleys if your dumb enough to run across the desert.
And there are plenty of areas in the map for infantry to play close quarters and plenty of areas and flags where infantry dominate ground vehicles.
The splash damage from vehicles is very low when surrounded by any object in game so it's pretty easy to avoid dying to a vehicle.
I can't confirm however it appears they have made splash damage decrease when a shell comes into contact with an object.
These kids want full cover from flag to flag and want to never have to face a big scary vehicle. And if they do, they want to press X once to make the big bad vehicle go away.
The maps are very cool on 64 player, probably the most interesting launch maps for a long time.
The devs need to say hey we messed up and start fixing this from the ground up.
@Stew360 my good friend stew… pls take a look at this screenshot.
i think its very clear that there is a like-minded community and i think its also very clear that the vast majority thinks 2042 is trash…
i know this screenshot is only on metacritic but i can show you the same trend on steam and google user reviews. Its not just a small part of people that think this way… it really is 80% of the community.
if you deny this then you are one hardheaded cookie 😂
