@BlueSnowFlakeIt's not just about getting killed. It's how and with what effort. And I understand if you are retired. But come to the reality just a bit. Player is smarter than AI. Game is same but in what phase? How logical decisions? I know what you mean by understanding, but you need to feel.
@Psubondand you know that's not true. It's not about damage, it's instant kill. Infantry whined about helo nerfs that they got multiple times. We adapted. But we can't really adapt to something that has no reaction time and silliness. 🤷♂️🤔
Edit: My suggestions
A. Give some kind of indicator that tank is pulling charge on me.
B. Nerf it to 2hit.
C.Add drop.
@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:@BlueSnowFlake
@Psubondand you know that's not true. It's not about damage, it's instant kill. Infantry whined about helo nerfs that they got multiple times. We adapted. But we can't really adapt to something that has no reaction time and silliness. 🤷♂️🤔
and helo pilots told us to git gud and use teamwork and that a vehicle should be powerful then whined and called us names when they got nerfed. i didn't seen any helo pilots having an issue with 30mm cannon shells gluing us in place or with the stealth helo being basically invincible above 230m (rao's hack range). helo pilots aren't getting any sympathy from me. i'm sure they will make changes if the data says it's needed. in the mean time enjoy being lower in the food chain. we gotta deal with instant death with no warning now you do too.
the spawn kill thing is a problem with spawning not the tank and should be fixed by fixing the spawn (maybe make helo invisible for 5 sec after spawning or randomize spawn location...maybe both).
@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:
@PsubondJust try to understand, I don't want to be that guy whos gonna spawn camp and wait for tank. My objective is not enemies spawn 😅. And you do have warnings cause even infantry doesn't die to a helo with one hit. Unless someone is close to vehicle and AGM hits it, not sure if it takes 100hp. I really don't need that sympathy from you, but like I mentioned, try to imagine me sniping you with mk4 across the map ohk and I hit you in the toe, no matter how much you jump or wiggle. 🙄😀
i get shot in the head somehow while i'm running from across the map. there is no warning coming it just happens. i didn't say helos do it, another infantry or maybe a tank does it. i don't have to imagine it, it happens to infantry all the time, especially on maps like hourglass. welcome to the suck. we have to deal with it and now you do too. to avoid it infantry has to use cover and can't stop or run in a straight line. now helos get to deal with that fun mechanic
@PsubondAhh, w.e. You really compare fly with elephant. How often you get shot by a sniper in a day across the map question is? How many bullets does shooter need to fire to get you? I'm recon player since bf3 and can tell, across map shots that land in the head while you are in the move is hard asf. That tank pulls kills mostly with first shot.
And infantry does die kind of "almost without warning" But rarely across the map just like that. Was it tank or sniper, but again infantry has that 5 seconds respawn time. And TOR doesn't even see infantry. :D
Nah, nerf or solution is needed so i can deal with fun mechanic. There is no other way to adapt except only spawncamp it.
Helo pilots always cry until they get what they want so im sure this will be no different. Stingers are effectively being removed from the game because no one will pick crawford or boris because they are both bottom tier specialists. So helo pilots will be able to strut around like they are something special if they manage to get the tor nerfed
@Anarchiesx wrote:
@Psubond
Well if you idiots didn't cry for a "class system" we never needed back, then this wouldn't be happening.
Dont put that crap on me, i have been railing against classes from the start
@Anarchiesx you dont speak for a very large portion of the veteran BF players, we never asked for these specialist either. We never asked for that failure of BFV's Battle Royale, we never asked for losing Hardcore mode.
But yet here we are
Yes. I do. Nearly invincible jets/stealth pilots are just grumpy because they sometimes get shot by the TOR. They want total dominance and no balance of power. Very little sympathy. And with the upcoming removal of AA and Recoiless from almost all players (especially AA taken away from Rao), I'm even happier TOR tank exists.
And please stop linking snap edit videos of TOR making a bunch of kills. I can show the same videos of Heli making tons of kills. Does that mean we should get rid of those too? Anyone playing the TOR and taking those spawnkill 500m+ shot attempts will know there is a ton of times you miss too. Unless the pilot is braindead, it's a lucky shot at those ranges.
The only conceit I might have is some damage fall off at very long range.
@DigitalHypeEDIT: Whos video you are reffering?
@AOD_CapStar362 wrote:
@Man_iLoveFishing"A. Give some kind of indicator that tank is pulling charge on me. "
You get that, the bright white arc flash from the barrel.
"B. Nerf it to 2hit." Ive offered this in exchange for a rebuff of SOME of the accuracy could apply it to your example as well.
"C.Add drop." <-- you understand how ballistics work right? Typical FPS of a bullet, say a 762 NATO - 2600 f/s - what do you think a rail gun is flying at?
8200 to 9800 f/s - literally 4 times faster than a bullet. ballistically, there is very little to zero drop in the map space we play in.
Thank God, someone else in here actually understands ballistics
Tbh im tired of this pointless arguement. Enjoy while you can. Probably will be nerfed.
@SpudBug wrote:
@DigitalHypeI don't think anything should one shot any aircraft. 90% damage? Sure. If I have literally any other damage then it takes me out. But one hit kills on vehicles should only be for mines or c5.
Disagree. Those little bug aircraft are nothing but glass. Theyre small with no real armor. Theyre so fast and agile.
Nobody talks about how many misses happen, only the hits. If youre good at Lis, maybe 30% (im being kind there), hit. That isnt a reason for a nerf. Realistically, its probably 15%.
