Lots of previous BF games lack good team balancing system which would result in extremely one-sided game that the tickets count of winning and losing team would be something like 1000/200. We all know the extremely one side game (get stuck in main spawn) is not as fun as a somewhat balanced game. Even for the winning team, it gets boring to camp outside the enemy main spawn and wait for a few brave souls to come out one by one and get picked off; It gets boring after like 5~10 matches.So my proposed solutions are:1) Better Ranked system that groups players of the similar levels in one match2) Dynamic team balancing system where if the ticket counts ratio of losing/winning team is below certain level (say 30/100) then it would be automatically triggered.The dynamic team balancing system could do the following things to aid the losing team temporarily till the ticket count ratio is back to somewhat acceptable level: Give more vehicle drop calls such as armors or air vehiclesAllow losing team to spawn at a far away places from main spawn (so they can get out) via HALO jump.Boost the HP/Damage of worst K/D players on losing team for a few seconds/minutesVisual aids to the losing team such as general direction which objects that they should focus on (losing team usually has no idea to do coordinated attack at once but go different way alone). We all have our Corporal Upham moment when on the losing team and need a friendly reminder of what to do. Temporarily radar scan that reveals all enemy positions for a short while. This would allow the losing team to break through the defense line created by the winning team easier. P.S. Dynamic team balancing system shouldn't be triggered when a match is near the end to avoid unfair win by the losing team; furthermore, it should only be triggered a limited number of times during a match. Also Dynamic team balancing system should be optional feature for server admin to enable/disable since some people might not like it.

We dont need dynamic balancing prolonging a one sided round. Its better a lopsided round ended in 10 mins, than dragging out for 20 with 19 times out of 20 exactly the same end result.

Player level isn't necessarily a proper indicator of actual skill, just time spent playing. A lot of people didn't appreciate the automatic ticket balancing of previous titles so I kind of doubt it'll make a return - of course you never know

The only way to accurately balance players would be to use per map metrics. Players performance (skill) varies map to map and how they approach the map. So EA/DICE would have to do extensive stats tracking for this to work. Beyond this you cannot split a squad, or do mid round balancing. If you need to shift a player, then his/her whole squad needs to be shifted. Most squads/players that get shifted to a losing team after busting * for the win usually leave the server.A more balanced approach to stacked games would be to simply open the downed teams main for capture if all other CP's are taken. Once it's capped the bleed is sped up dramatically and no other players can spawn on that team, unless through a squad spawn. Game is over in a few short minutes. That's the old school approach to overwhelmed teams.Another option would be to enable "forfeiting" by the losing team once ticket counts meet a set criteria.

This is why I said the dynamic balancing system should be optional like normal/hardcore mode. That players can choose to join server with or without dynamic balancing system if available. Anyway I just hate spending more time on trying to find a balanced server than actually playing the game (in BC2, BF3&4).

@ninjapenquinuk I’m assuming you like playing games 20 v 10 being on the losing side then ?

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Sgt-DCTW

4 years ago

Dynamic team balancing system

Lots of previous BF games lack good team balancing system which would result in extremely one-sided game that the tickets count of winning and losing team would be something like 1000/200. We all know the extremely one side game (get stuck in main spawn) is not as fun as a somewhat balanced game. Even for the winning team, it gets boring to camp outside the enemy main spawn and wait for a few brave souls to come out one by one and get picked off; It gets boring after like 5~10 matches.

So my proposed solutions are:

1) Better Ranked system that groups players of the similar levels in one match

2) Dynamic team balancing system where if the ticket counts ratio of losing/winning team is below certain level (say 30/100) then it would be automatically triggered.

The dynamic team balancing system could do the following things to aid the losing team temporarily till the ticket count ratio is back to somewhat acceptable level:

Give more vehicle drop calls such as armors or air vehicles
Allow losing team to spawn at a far away places from main spawn (so they can get out) via HALO jump.
Boost the HP/Damage of worst K/D players on losing team for a few seconds/minutes
Visual aids to the losing team such as general direction which objects that they should focus on (losing team usually has no idea to do coordinated attack at once but go different way alone). We all have our Corporal Upham moment when on the losing team and need a friendly reminder of what to do.
Temporarily radar scan that reveals all enemy positions for a short while. This would allow the losing team to break through the defense line created by the winning team easier.

P.S. Dynamic team balancing system shouldn't be triggered when a match is near the end to avoid unfair win by the losing team; furthermore, it should only be triggered a limited number of times during a match. Also Dynamic team balancing system should be optional feature for server admin to enable/disable since some people might not like it.

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TTZ_Dipsy
Legend
4 years ago
Player level isn't necessarily a proper indicator of actual skill, just time spent playing. A lot of people didn't appreciate the automatic ticket balancing of previous titles so I kind of doubt it'll make a return - of course you never know
Sgt-DCTW
4 years ago
This is why I said the dynamic balancing system should be optional like normal/hardcore mode. That players can choose to join server with or without dynamic balancing system if available. Anyway I just hate spending more time on trying to find a balanced server than actually playing the game (in BC2, BF3&4).
VOLBANKER_PC
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Sgt-DCTW A quick-fix is to make it honorable and “the right thing to do” for players in top 5 or 6 on the winning team to switch to the losing team.

Maybe a stat counting how many matches you’ve switched to the losing side / to the team getting steamrolled. And then display this stat prominently, for example right up there with K/D and Score Pr. Min.
Sgt-DCTW
4 years ago
But what if the good players are all from the same clan or a group of youtubers that want to play on the same team no matter what? And these good players would not feel like switching to opposite team and would probably all drop off the current server if one of them are forced to switch. Also the top 5~6 players on the winning team could be the reason that team is winning (for example that they are all in jet, chopper, or tank) and if you switch them to the losing team then the winning team would start to lose. Then the server become unbalanced quickly again.
VOLBANKER_PC
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Sgt-DCTW I didn’t mean everybody in top 5 or 6 could switch to the losing team in a match. It would take some experimentation to get reasonably right. Maybe when the one team has pulled 150 tickets ahead, 1 spot for switching to the losing team becomes available. Then make some time pass to see if that helps with balance. If not, 1 more spot for switching to the losing team becomes available. Something like that maybe. And only for the players in top 5 or 6 on the winning side. This is to make sure it really is a strong player who can help the losing team that switches to it.

Dunno if this could work at all, it’s just an idea.
HudsonSSD
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
@Sgt-DCTW I think dice did say something about team balancing awhile ago with the new battlefield.

Long as teams are balanced with either numbers or skill (whilst idk how that would work) but number balancing is a must.

Interesting to see how AI balancing up the servers works out when numbers are low.
IICookieGII
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
@Sgt-DCTW Some really good ideas here! 😃

To add to the list personally I would go with a slowdown of the tickets as the main driver.

Gives the "losing" side a chance to regain some parity but not have an outcome of a "draw" every game. Although, I remember some of the best games I had were when the games were almost neck and neck!
AristarhUcolov2
4 years ago
@Sgt-DCTW It will be weird)) but you can modify the game) so “Don’t worry. Be happy"
Ygonov
4 years ago
I believe that we become better players when we play against the best, I don't think making it easier for the team that is losing should motivate them to become better.
ENI232
4 years ago
@TTZ_Dipsy Yeah but if you are higher level you should have a better understanding of the game and play better.