EA/DICE respond to backlash
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@CountSero Let me put it in another perspective.
You have bought and owned a car of a specific model for years and been more than happy about it.
Later on your car gets old and you want a new one.
Why not buy the new model from the same maker that has been advertised.
You go to the car dealer and see the new car. (game trailer)
It looks nice and reminds a lot about the old cars but with updated features.
You decide to buy it.
But then on delivery you get a bicycle because it's popular at the moment.
Should you not have the right to ask why you got something else than what you thought you ordered and paid for?
Or should you just use the bike and hope that they will turn it to the car you wished for in a couples of years?
You have bought and owned a car of a specific model for years and been more than happy about it.
Later on your car gets old and you want a new one.
Why not buy the new model from the same maker that has been advertised.
You go to the car dealer and see the new car. (game trailer)
It looks nice and reminds a lot about the old cars but with updated features.
You decide to buy it.
But then on delivery you get a bicycle because it's popular at the moment.
Should you not have the right to ask why you got something else than what you thought you ordered and paid for?
Or should you just use the bike and hope that they will turn it to the car you wished for in a couples of years?
@MurkaZzzand I think many people voicing defense here forget that we paid for a product that was advertised and expected to deliver a certain product, based on past performance, but failed to do so and instead released something that was certainly not ready for consumption. They are not doing any favors, they are correcting what was already paid for. Thats just business, or should be.
Now I will admit that I do like many aspects of the game and continue playing. I think it has a lot of potential and yes, I can be patient for the corrections and functionality to be coded in. But in my mind, the sense of urgency from EA should be communicated and some good faith made to keep the audience.
- @Ahhnuld I don't think the issue is the fact that people complained about the product, more of the fact of HOW some in the community complained about it. I mean just look at some of the titles of the posts in the forums, they are not very constructive. Many make subjective remarks and trivialize the magnitude of work is needed to fix things.
There are different ways to address the issue, unfortunately the "loud minority" is overshadowing people who truly want the game to get better. I think EA's initial frustrated response was justified and if people are butthurt about it, they should first stop throwing stones themselves. Should never buy something based on past performance (especially after V). People also need to understand that most of the developers love the series and want to see it grow - features being outright removed and focus put on specific modes and agendas is an upper management type of deal
@TTZ_DipsyI do not agree. I have always and continue to buy products based on past performance. Its call brand loyalty and I do it with almost everything, including software and hardware. Now obviously as time goes on, companys lose the culture and direction often changes. But then so will the consumer choose to buy elsewhere.
Keep in mind that I am not whining about the developers or some of the tweaking that is being worked on, thats normal stuff. It was a bad decision at the management level to release the game prematurally and without basic coding , such as native joystick support, as they have had for every previous version.
@Ahhnuld wrote:@TTZ_DipsyI do not agree. I have always and continue to buy products based on past performance. Its call brand loyalty and I do it with almost everything, including software and hardware. Now obviously as time goes on, companys lose the culture and direction often changes. But then so will the consumer choose to buy elsewhere.
Keep in mind that I am not whining about the developers or some of the tweaking that is being worked on, thats normal stuff. It was a bad decision at the management level to release the game prematurally and without basic coding , such as native joystick support, as they have had for every previous version.Battlefield 1 and V shipped without joystick support at launch.
@Ahhnuld wrote:@MurkaZzzand I think many people voicing defense here forget that we paid for a product that was advertised and expected to deliver a certain product, based on past performance, but failed to do so and instead released something that was certainly not ready for consumption. They are not doing any favors, they are correcting what was already paid for. Thats just business, or should be.
Now I will admit that I do like many aspects of the game and continue playing. I think it has a lot of potential and yes, I can be patient for the corrections and functionality to be coded in. But in my mind, the sense of urgency from EA should be communicated and some good faith made to keep the audience.You have amnesia. Almost every BF game is buggy at launch and in a rough state going back 20 years. And DICE has supported every BF game, going back 20 years, with ~18 months of bug fixes, improvements and content drops.
Your amnesia seems to happen within weeks becasue you also forget that EA provided a beta for everyone to play, they offered a 10 hr trial for $5 thru EA Play, they have a no questions asked ~48 hour refund policy, and they communicated what was going to be in the game beforehand. Also you forget you weren't forced to buy the game at launch. You forget that within days if not hours, Youtube and reddit are littered with footage and comments on the state of the game.
Must be tough having amnesia set on so quickly. 🙂
- @trip1ex You sure do assume a lot, rather than ask questions to understand.
My memory serves me just fine. I have been playing this franchise for the past 20 years, and I recall all the patches and updates to improve the game. What I do not recall is any of them missing major key components at launch, and after having paid full price for a release, not a beta. My opinions are based on my own observations and experiences, not whats on reddit, youtube, or any other medium.
It appears based on your snarky tone that you are just trolling and not adding any real value to the discussion. And if you expect that a company release a final version at full price, but fails to deliver the advertised expectation, the real problem is you. Let me sell you a flashy new year model car that I show you a picture of and when you get it, there are no wheels or seats. Just be patient and dont complain, you didnt HAVE to buy it, right?
@Ahhnuld wrote:
@trip1exYou sure do assume a lot, rather than ask questions to understand.
My memory serves me just fine. I have been playing this franchise for the past 20 years, and I recall all the patches and updates to improve the game. What I do not recall is any of them missing major key components at launch, and after having paid full price for a release, not a beta. My opinions are based on my own observations and experiences, not whats on reddit, youtube, or any other medium.
It appears based on your snarky tone that you are just trolling and not adding any real value to the discussion. And if you expect that a company release a final version at full price, but fails to deliver the advertised expectation, the real problem is you. Let me sell you a flashy new year model car that I show you a picture of and when you get it, there are no wheels or seats. Just be patient and dont complain, you didnt HAVE to buy it, right?You must have amnesia because they always release buggy games. Everyone always complains. They always patch their games and add content. And there is no major component missing in 2042.
I don't know what the explanation could be otherwise.
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