45Hz Server Tick Rate is part of the playability problem!Using servers that only transmit data 45 times a second may work perfectly for Candy-Crush but NOT for FPS games like Battlefield. Throw Cross Platform capabilities into the mix, double the max player count to 128 with larger maps and you’ll end up neck deep in what we have right now.EA/DICE, if 64Hz servers were used at “minimum” a lot of the anomaly’s players are having with movement, hits not registering, hits around corners, and massive incoming damage being delivered in a single instant kill tick (like in the picture above) would decrease drastically. Realistically good AAA FPS games should be shooting for a tick closer 128Hz for smooth gameplay. I really don’t see cross play and 128 player maps being reliably feasible in it's current state. Something has got to give; Cross Play, 128 player count maps, or the Sever Tick Rate. It can’t all be kept smooth and reliable at the current 45Hz.

@Echo6Echo EA really needs to step up with this.Channeling my cheesiest Mackay voice “Oh, I’m ready. Hell, I’ve played Battlefield 2042 at 45Hz and it’s all just a roll of the DICE… You get it?”

EA's a 10 but they only like playing on 45Hz servers

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RaginSam
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@SeriousJuJu I have mixed feelings about this. Realistically anything over 60 is too much for larger player counts, I think at least. I'm not entirely convinced that a tick rate of 45 is the problem. It becomes way too much to process with very high tick rates. There was a definite trade off going to 128 players on the field though. Is the trade off worth it? It's a different experience and you can't have it all. Very precise hit reg or All out Warfare, but probably not both. Believe me, I'm not thrilled about getting killed around corners and watching my bullets hit someone just for them to be 100 health and insta kill me. There's something off for sure.

In an arena shooter or a total player count under 12 players, I can see games using higher 128 tick rates like CSGO, Valorant, and other esport type games. For something like BF I don't think it's needed. Game design plays a big role. BF has vehicles, bigger maps, and the gun fights tend to be more mid range.

I want it all too, but unfortunately I don't think it's possible. Maybe the answer is 60hz tick rate with 64 players? Was that more fun than 128 players? Map size and design play a big part if it feels empty or not. I'm on the fence myself.
Echo6Echo
4 years ago
This isn't the first 128 player title in the series. You might be right about tick rate, but not about having smooth play, 128 players and decent hit detection. I've seen it. Something is funky in the code...no two ways about it.
SeriousJuJu
4 years ago
@Echo6Echo EA really needs to step up with this.

Channeling my cheesiest Mackay voice “Oh, I’m ready. Hell, I’ve played Battlefield 2042 at 45Hz and it’s all just a roll of the DICE… You get it?”
filthy_vegans
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Echo6Echo wrote:
This isn't the first 128 player title in the series.
Wait... What? Which battlefield title before this one had 128 players?
Anobix
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Echo6Echo wrote:
This isn't the first 128 player title in the series. You might be right about tick rate, but not about having smooth play, 128 players and decent hit detection. I've seen it. Something is funky in the code...no two ways about it.
AFAIK every other BF title maxed out at 64 players, and I've played basically all of them since 1942
AngrySquid270
4 years ago
I think Project Reality (a Battlefield 2 mod) toyed with 128p a bit. Not sure how well it worked or didn't. I played some Project Reality back in the day, but never at 128p. DICE has never officially supported 128p to my knowledge.
A thread from the PR board with the (PR) Dev's talking about player limits:
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121842
ATFGunr
Legend
4 years ago
@SeriousJuJu Thanks for sharing this info
Echo6Echo
4 years ago
Ok, Ok...I had to do some thinking but I may be talking about modded servers...memory is a bit foggy. I amend the statement "I've seen 64 players run smooth with good hit detection."
It's not that way in this title....
Anobix
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Echo6Echo wrote:
Ok, Ok...I had to do some thinking but I may be talking about modded servers...memory is a bit foggy. I amend the statement "I've seen 64 players run smooth with good hit detection."
It's not that way in this title....
No problem, that we can agree with. Given the choice I play on the 90hz+ tick rate servers with 48-64 players in BF4.
SeriousJuJu
4 years ago
This video was published 2015 but still does a very good job of explaining Hz/Tick for anyone that may be a little confused.
*Please keep in mind that this video is now 7 years old.