False positive bans
I just got a false positive banned from BF2042 this morning, while I was not even home... how is this even possible? I guess its rip my ultimate edition. I believe another user @Gryphonv got the sa...
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On the 22-DEC-2021, I was banned. Disputed with footage of me playing. Rejected after an "investigation" (that clearly never happened).
The day before I was banned, I had uploaded this footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUGsC🤭T9W0
Which is an edited clip of this Nvidia Instant Replay of gameplay on the 22nd DEC 2021:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXQIMwXqIpM
I also have Nvidia Instant Replay of gameplay from the 19th DEC 2021:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDqiB0YK-o0
If they had done a proper "investigation" they would see that all my games since launch have been bang average and unspectacular, just like the footage above.
I have other "highlight" clips between Launch and Ban.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVxY251I4sU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za2iPiX_Dwk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fXKLcyGRac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqMa9Zo070c
These are what I consider highlights and they think I'm cheating? It's absurd. And I've paid for the GOLD edition of this game, so I've not only been banned for TOS violations I did not commit but also not received or experienced content I've paid for (Season Pass). I definitely feel robbed.
I have only played in All Out Warfare - Conquest, Breakthrough (MP and Solo) modes and the featured Rush mode (during the promotional event), which I think is a Portal Mode. I've been very vanilla since launch and not tried any of the Portal stuff, I figured I'd do that when I actually start to get bored of the main game - guess that will never happen now.
There are some theories that background apps may be triggering false positives as cheats. This is pure speculation but I've seen people talk about iCUE and NZXT hardware monitoring apps. I don't use any of those but I'll list what I have and what I run. I've been using these same apps in the background for the past 10 years and without issue in any games including BF3, BF4, BF1, and BFV.
Hardware interface apps: Nvidia Settings, EVGA Precision X1, G.Skill Trident Z Lighting Control, Samsung Magician, Elgato Camera Hub, Elgato Wave Link, Tobii Experience.
Other Backgroud apps running: Google Drive, Telegram, Steam, GoG, qBittorrent, MEGAsync, Internet Download Manager, CCleaner, AutoHotkey, Tobii Game Hub.
Input devices: Input Club Kira mechanical keyboard, Glorious Model O mouse, Tobii Eye Tracker, Elgato Facecam Elgato, Wave 3 microphone, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS (Hands on Throttle & Stick), MFG Crosswinds Pedals
My biggest concern right now is IF Easy Anti-Cheat is flagging me for "cheating" with my current setup, then I am at risk in many other games since Easy Anti-Cheat is very popular. And I have far more valuable games I play with EAC.
So the only thing I run that I can see would perhaps raise an eyebrow is AutoHotkey? I've had the same script running in the background for a DECADE and never had an issue before, so I don't see why it would trigger it. I run a script that helps me with accessibility and functions on my PC for ease. The script is below:
#NoEnv #Warn #Persistent #SingleInstance force SendMode Input ^SPACE:: Winset, Alwaysontop, , A // CTRL+SPACE makes the active window always on top, this is useful for me for work when I have multiple windows open and overlaying. #IfWinActive, Bethesda.net Launcher ::password:: SendRaw, ************************* Return // when Bethesda Launcher is open, typing "password", types my actual password instead. #IfWinActive, Dauntless Launcher ::password:: SendRaw, ***************** // when Dauntless Launcher is open, typing "password", types my actual password instead. #IfWinActive, Dragon Age II - v1.04 ::password:: SendRaw, ************ Return // when Dragon Age 2 is open, typing "password", types my actual password instead. #IfWinActive, Elder Scrolls Online ::password:: SendRaw, ***************** Return // when Elder Scrolls Online is open, typing "password", types my actual password instead. #IfWinActive, Guild Wars 2 !Tab:: Return // when Guild Wars 2 is open, ALT-TAB is disabled (because Alt is my dodge and Tab is targeting). #IfWinActive, Titanfall 2 !Tab:: Return // when Titanfall 2 is open, ALT-TAB is disabled (because Alt is my slide and Tab is scoreboard). #IfWinActive, LINE :*:password:: SendRaw, ************* Return // when LINE app is open, typing "password", types my actual password instead. #IfWinActive, Overwatch :*:password:: SendRaw, ************ Return // when Overwatch is open, typing "password", types my actual password instead. #IfWinActive, RSI Launcher :*:password:: SendRaw, *********************************** Return // when RSI Launcher is open, typing "password", types my actual password instead. #IfWinActive, STAR WARS™: The Old Republic™ ::password:: SendRaw, ************ Return // when SWTOR launcher is open, typing "password", types my actual password instead. #IfWinActive, The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing Final Cut :*:password:: SendRaw, ***************** Return // when Van Helsing launcher is open, typing "password", types my actual password instead. #IfWinActive, Torchlight II :*:password:: SendRaw, ************** Return // when Torchlight II launcher is open, typing "password", types my actual password instead. #IfWinActive, WARFRAME :*:password:: SendRaw, ***************** Return // when Warframe launcher is open, typing "password", types my actual password instead.
So I guess if you're running AHK, be careful.Or if you are running AHK without issue, let me know, so I know I can know it's probably not AHK that is getting me flagged, because EA are useless and just messing over some legitimate fans.
@crazyjackal Let’s use a little common sense here……if your running a 3rd party program that has the ability to run scripts to manipulate key strokes and in the tos it clearly mentions 3rd party software there’s a high probability it’s that program.
Maybe people should start taking responsibility for what they are putting on their pc!
Maybe people should start taking responsibility for what they are putting on their pc!
- @emerson1975 it's all hypothetical and think about it, even if ahk is an issue there are those that aren't running it that are still being banned so it's got to be more than just that. And I hadn't run mine for at least a week.
I'm wondering if they even run EAC in Portal mode because I still find it strange that when I first started playing the game I only did about 10 minutes or so in AOW, then I played 99.9% in Portal mode... Then I happened to pop into AOW for about an hour and a half and boom! I was banned.Just received my dispute answer today...same like everyone else:
Hello,
Thanks for contacting us about your account action.
We got your note and did a full investigation of your account. After reviewing your case, we determined that we took the correct action in accordance with EA policies and procedures.
What this means
We have confirmed that your account was involved in cheating. Because of this, we will not remove the sanction on your account.
You break our rules(https://www.ea.com/terms-of-service#section6) if you:
• use software that interferes with or disrupts an EA Service or another user’s account.
• use undocumented features, exploits or cheats in-game that disrupts an EA Service or another user’s account.
• use software or cheats that disconnects other users from the EA servers.Any questions?
• Read up on how to play by the rules at https://help.ea.com/en-us/help/faq/play-by-the-ea-rules/
• Review our full user agreement. This is what you agree to when you make an EA Account or use EA services: http://www.ea.com/terms-of-serviceThank you,
EA Terms of Service- @cr0wnPK I have to laugh about the a-hole on phone support when I talk to him about it and mentioned these copy and paste responses and he had some snide comment trying to say that they weren't copy and paste. Yours is exactly like one of mine LOL this whole company is a joke and not a good one either
- @-NME-M0710NM4N Not sure if that's what I played to test some stuff but I remember playing two maps with AI/bots to adjust my settings and other time to test accesories with a sniper rifle and automatic rifle. Got many kills in there but that wouldn't be any wrong would it?
@viiccooNobody seems to know anything and it's all just hypothetical. I think if killing a bunch of bots in portal was the issue I would have been banned weeks ago.
I just find it very odd that I just happened to play an hour and a half of AOW and get banned when I had played 385 hours in portal with no problem.
This game is a joke and support is a joke
@emerson1975 yes bro, let's use a little common sense here.....
If you have been playing on PC for years with the same peripherals without being banned permanently or temporarily on any of the other dozens/hundreds of games you've played, how could you assume responsibility for being banned in this game without knowing what you are banned for? Nobody has said anything to confirm 3rd party software could even be the problem, if anything this thread alone has proven that is not the case. Before we go any further I would like to inform you that I personally do not have any of the software that could be used for setting up scripts to manipulate keystrokes, so in reality everything you're saying is completely invalid, but I want you to understand why instead of me just telling you you're wrong. There isn't a single cheater/hacker out there that would cheat/hack on their main account that is 10-20 years old, nobody planning on cheating would jeopardize their premium edition of the game, hundreds of dollars of other games on their account, and 1000s of hours of progress on that account. If battlefield doesn't want you to use the rgb on your keyboard, that's clearly a problem. If you are using your kb&m software to cheat, however, that is cheating. I hope you can see the difference and stop asking people to take responsibility for things they shouldn't have to take responsibility for, and furthermore for things that you actually don't know anything about(none of us have a clue why we're banned, therefore there is no way that you have any idea what you're talking about).
Maybe people should learn to read comprehensively, maybe people should do a lot of things, but asking people to take responsibility for a crime they didn't commit doesn't really seem like something a person with any common sense would ask of another person. So no, nobody will be taking responsibility for something they didn't do, sorry to let you down. Also, if you paid attention to the automated email everyone has shared dozens of times here regarding EA's definition of cheating, you could come to the conclusion all on your own that you have to be actually USING the 3rd party software to cheat, those are EA's words not mine, and just to remind you again, I don't even have any of the software on my pc. Hopefully you will take responsibility for spewing ignorance and try to avoid doing that in the future...
- @emerson1975 Every gaming mouse and keyboard has a program that can run scripts and macros. Logitech GHub, Roccat Swarm, Glorious Core, Razer Synapse, Steel Series Engine. Many game before, including BF games, have been able to tell the difference between actual cheating/hacking vs programs running in the background that "could" be used to cheat. Or else every gamer would be banned for having a gaming mouse.
- @emerson1975 Let’s see I had GeForce experience g hub which by the way changes my dpi should I choose to use sniper class and afterburner ?that’s what I was running
@emerson1975Here you go again claiming "common sense" and defending EA for hypothetically banning people for having AHK installed. If (and I doubt it) it is AHK triggering EAC, this is one of the biggest scandals known to gaming. AHK is a scripting language, like I said before, its like banning a javascript editor. AHK is a powerful tool, but as a cheat-engine it is very limited, and frankly, I have a hard time seeing what use you could make of AHK in battlefield except for maybe rebinding hotkeys (which also shouldn't be a bannable offence).
You can't go around shaming people for having AHK installed, "take some responsibility for what you put on your PC" again, if it is AHK, it is EA who should be ashamed, not the people who have it installed. AHK is no different from any other scripting language, which you would know if you had any knowledge about the subject, which you clearly don't. With that being said, I urge you AGAIN to stop spewing this nonsense and do some research about what AHK actually is.
