Hello everyone
Yes we know the missing scoreboard is hurting some gamers, tbh i love the new ways but heard yous may bring back to old ways why not have both !
Example when the Ribbon screen comes up under the ribbon add "PRESS X" to see sub scoreboard which will be the old standard way.
This way we get both new and old gamers should be happy this way.
bit off topic hope yous all had nice christmas
@DAYLEET wrote:
@Albake21z wrote:"Without a scoreboard, how am I supposed to know if what I'm doing is good? How do I know if my cur"
The scoreboard can't tell you if you are doing good or bad because it can't differentiate scores from everyone on your team based on where they are and what they do. It can tell you if your team is losing or winning but you won't find a magic answer on a scoreboard. The scoreboard also can't tell you what YOU need to do. You need to look around you and identify the needs lacking if any. Thats usually having more flags than your enemy and when you do stop everything and defend where you are or relocate to a deserted flag you own. The biggest mistakes teams make is not strengthening their advantages and instead tries to get more. Never be where the whole team is.
"If I'm running an LMG infantry loadout and I see that my score is very low compared to either team, I can change things up to see what will help. If I can't compare my score to anything, it's mindless. Without stats there's no point or motivation to improve and get better in the game."
No. The scoreboard can tell you that you have been slacking or unlucky but you knew that already if that was the case and it can't tell you why. Running lmg infantry loadout isnt a class anymore, thank god. I am a gunner at heart and now i can switch my long range attachment to my close range whenever i want. Before this, in previous battlefields, wielding a m240 vs a m60 pretty much locked my role to either run n gun or deployed and suppress. Just use the gun that works for you and dont try to force meta on yourself. Your motivation is to win by any mean necessary. That is to get more flag. Then you fight to keep them. If you need to switch to medic for fast revive with ammo crate, its not the scoreboard thats gona tell you. If this isnt working you have to ask yourself, what were you trying to do and why it didnt work. Don't look at your score... you know if things aren't going well for you or your team. War is chaotic, no single soldier has the key to victory, accept that you can't control it and that you will lose even if you did everything how it was supposed to.
"If I can't compare my score to anything, it's mindless. Without stats there's no point or motivation to improve and get better in the game."
Your motivation is to win by any mean necessary. That is to get more flag. Then you fight to keep them.
"You completely glossed over my reasoning for solo kill hungry players.... Let's give an example. Let's say the game starts with 1000 tickets. If someone ends the game with a whopping 100 kills, they just took off 10% of the enemies' tickets all by themselves. Is that not helping the team in the overall match? That's 10% by one player in a 64 to 128 player server. Are they not a team player now? Did their 10% mean nothing to you? Battlefield is a sandbox experience. It allows everyone to play how they want to play. Although it may be a selfish way to play, it's still going towards the greater good of the team. It's just one of many ways to remove the enemy tickets."
No. Revive negate ticket loss and flags have always been the quick road to victory. My experience in Battlefield3_4 with high count player kills have always been from people in vehicle abusing some way of playing that doesn't serve the team and if you ignore those and cap around them they lose. They don't just have high kill count but also very little death. It's classic in battlefield and always requires specific ways of playing. Its not useful to kill 3 or 4 guys in a heli run then disappear only to do it again when a medic comes out from hiding after. Capping around those elite pilots have always been the way to go.
"I'll add this one more time because it's very clear our freedom of choice is becoming more and more silenced. Silencing people does not help toxicity. Our history as humans has proved this wrong for hundreds of years. Don't like Voip? Mute or turn it off in the menu. Don't want to see the scoreboard? Don't use it... would be nice for DICE to allow both options though. Don't want all chat? Click one single button and it hides away. Give player options, don't just remove * because you feel empowered in doing so."
I've given reasons why i think the scoreboard needs to go in the very post you quoted. You didn't address those reasons, you ignored them only to end your post with self victimization because people disagrees with you. Now you add voip and AllChat to the discussion in an attempt to make the scoreboard situation seems worse when they have nothing to do with each others.
Well voip certainly could be useful in HZ and if you think your squads that spread to all cardinal point will stop because voip you're wrong but you can have it. I don't care about voip, it wont make people play worse or incentivize cheaters like a scoreboard does.
All Chat has never once been useful in all my years of playing any video game. Unless the game is nearly over and the trashtalk and the hurt feelings is a fun thing to read while it ends. You can have it, i don't care about high kill dude * on low kill players, it can be entertaining.
Kudos for this post 🙂
I have stated this several times in other threads here, the classic Scoreboard is forcing a "wrong kind" of teamplay
I don't need to be Top of a list or have the highest K/D (especially when I don't know if these kills got acquired via Bolte camping, Nightbird farming etc.)
In the end it is important my teams wins and that can only be done by supporting each other, caping and defending flags.
See you on the Battlefield
I tend to believe the choice to not have the scoreboard is probably more to discourage toxic behaviour. Its the way the world is going these days and, to me, seems the most likely reason for it. I like to think it will return. In some ways its nice not to have some big mouth idiot whining at his team about how great he is and singling out people for having a poor game, but it masks potential hackers when they used to stick out like a sore thumb when you could see a level 6 with 80 kills on the scoreboard.
Its giving the game a bit of a casual vibe really. If I wanted to sit in spawn with a sniper rifle and get 6 kills in a round, who would really know? Would anyone suggest I wasn't really helping the team? Not saying that's what I do, but everyone can do their own thing and its pretty anonymous. I played a round of rush a few days ago and two guys in my squad were nowhere near the action the whole game, they took themselves right to the very edge of the combat area and had hardly any kills or assists. No idea what they were up to, myself and another guy in the squad questioned it in squad chat but they didn't respond. Its not easy to notice things like this with no general scoreboard. Wouldn't you like some kind of explanation when your team gets steamrolled in a round? As it is I have no real idea what just happened because the visibility just isn't there.
The scoreboard was very usefu way l to see if your team needed more of a certain class like medic or support. You could see who is running what class was so nice
Don't understand how something a simple as a proper scoreboard hasn't been introduced into the game.
Literally all other BF games had it, nearly every FPS shooter has it. Dice pls add it.
