Get rid of EMKV90-TOR one shot nonsense
Get rid of TOR one shot nonsense and for God's sake stop bringing one shot no skill, no IQ, any noob can use with great success weapons.
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what about the stealth-choppers ability to pretty much one hit kill tanks? just switch to the gunner seat if its not occupied drop an EMP on the tank and bomb it to kingdom come and beyond? the issue goes both ways
@X-Sunslayer-X No. See point is, bombs won't one hit a tank. Another thing, when you want to hit all bombs, you have to do it at low altitude. You still have chance to drop out and use recoilless or Liss and in most cases people drop bombs and use AGM, so you can use aps sentinels, whole point is, you still have that chance to counter including teammates that might be close around. For comparace, when TOR hits helo, what chance do I have other than on the blink of eye kapish from another side of map? But again, I miss that incoming warning cause my job is not to stare at enemy main base and wait for it so I can be first one to spawn kill and also that tank can appear everywhere cause of air deploy.
Just seems a bit too brutal cause it's very accurate and low skill usage. Not saying that helo is hard either against individual infantry or defenceless vehicle, but again there are many AA gadgets, vehicles and counter aircrafts that needs to be counted in with situations around me and analyzing measurements (which includes map learning, dodging and so on) that takes some time to achieve. 🤷♂️
That tank doesn't really need gamesense.
Just seems a bit too brutal cause it's very accurate and low skill usage. Not saying that helo is hard either against individual infantry or defenceless vehicle, but again there are many AA gadgets, vehicles and counter aircrafts that needs to be counted in with situations around me and analyzing measurements (which includes map learning, dodging and so on) that takes some time to achieve. 🤷♂️
That tank doesn't really need gamesense.
- @Man_iLoveFishing yet people want to nerf the AA options too.
it really seems like helo mains really want to be invincible in the air. your infantry should be pounding the TOR to keep him moving. when i see camping vehicles i make it a point to make them move. sometimes that's missiles/rockets sometimes it is a MK4 and keep plinking at them till they move.
like helo mains tell infantry all the time, you need teamwork to counter the thing killing you - @Psubond well, I think atm other aa options are nothing compared to this. My team can't help me when I'm dead and my team can't help me if tank is at main base and on small hill that only movement is gonna be reverse. And also it's too far.
- @Man_iLoveFishing it is a rail gun. it must have high velocity which due to physics reduces rate of damage drop off and drop.
now helo mains know how infantry felt when they added stealth helos. i don't think any changes to TOR should happen until they either make stealth helo choose between flares and stealth and remove all weapons in stealth mode - @Psubond Well, we shouldn't really count reality or physics, helos 30mm would obliviate person into dust with one hit, imagine that.
And they added liss and later buffed. Very solid counter that actually requires skill. I dropped stealth helo cause of it. If there is Stealth farming means your team doesn't have aa users. That tanks whole idea is to make sure farmer dies with too little effort. Cutting my skills.
What im saying is, you rely too much on lockons, even tho you should use more manual handling which requires you to learn. Hitting a maneuvering helo with an M5 at anything more than 50m is dumb luck. Change my mind
- @Man_iLoveFishing And a stinger would obliterate a helo
- @Psubond That's why helos have counter measures.
@Psubondneither is 30mm in game as 30mm.
Sorry stupid thing to argue. But is it dumb enough to give me some warning sign like some beeping? At least I know not to get shot just like that?Or reduce damage?
- @Man_iLoveFishing you also still have a chance of avoiding the Tor projectile... all you need to do is not be predictable....easy as that, or fly so high he can not get the elevation....
lets be real here until the TOR came out there was not a single tank most pilots were afraid of.... even the AA until its most recent change was rather pointless....
the balance all together is just bad in 2042 so don't think choppers should get special treatment... especially after they have been one of the most broken vehicle classes until S2 Liz came out and even then they were still dominant beyond comprehension... 50mm Hind/Condor spam anyone? - @X-Sunslayer-X You don't understand, I can be unpredictable. But try doing that while you are busy with another air vehicle, fight lasts too long. Also if tor is far, you really can't wiggle much.
- @X-Sunslayer-X And I don't really need, I've adapted with tons of nerfs, added gadgets. I've built my self measurements. That tanks only measurement for me is to shut down game.
- @Man_iLoveFishing fine, get a beep so you know it is firing but i expect a fix to the completely OP stealth helo that hides in stealth mode and pops flares when you start to hack then goes back into stealth mode after flares are protecting it (after short delay that is too short to get a hit if it isn't directly on top of you)
- @X-Sunslayer-X Problem is that in 90% of times when TOR hill campers killed me I didn't have an idea it was even on the map. And it 90% of those cases I was killed in my own spawn by a TOR camper in its spawn. According to you a way to go about this is to fly a helicopter and do nothing else except looking around for a TOR hiding behind the trees in a game where spotting is so unreliable.
@ImmutabIeNot by yourself you cant. Cant equip soflam and m5 at same time and hack on rao. Then you have to home temate notices and launches m5 before flares recharge if you hack and soflam. If they are far away there isnt enough time
I'm fine with it having reduced damage if it recharged shots faster to compensate
Choppers can't dominate the way they do and I don't feel bad for em
Edit: I thought TOR was getting a nerf in the next patch but it turns out I can't read and its the normal railgun
I see the Rorsch MK-4 is getting a nerf but I didn't see anything on the TOR?
@Ironhead841 yup, you're right
- @TTZ_Dipsy Haha, I mean, I've never died to it with vehicle. 😅
Nerf this camping, it is only used for camping and it shouldn't be one shooting anything as the only way people play it is from the base
It doesn't involve any skill so JUST REMOVE IT FROM THE GAME, just like anything that doesn't need skill.
"It doesn't involve any skill so JUST REMOVE IT FROM THE GAME, just like anything that doesn't need skill."
So, by that logic, TGM, Helicopters, Jets, TOR, Sundance Anti-armor seeking grenades, see through wall EM-X no skill there ? so take that all out. SOLFAM - no skill, just prop up somewhere and earn XP, ZERO SKILL - take that out.
Quit your whiningFly over the Tank's blind spot and its helpless.
